The Impeachment Thread

With the CIA changing their whistleblower rules after the fact and the inside knowledge that the Dems had before the official release of the complaint I'm convinced that this was a leak and coup attempt
 
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If Trump was a dem, I would be here bitching about the democrats blindly supporting a lunatic with a learning disability.
Then I have to assume you bitched about Hillary as the Dem nominee since the same description applies. If so, you're a rare bird. Holding both sides consistently responsible is what I've tried to stress.
 
With the CIA changing their whistleblower rules after the fact and the inside knowledge that the Dems had before the official release of the complaint I'm convinced that this was a leak and coup attempt

Don’t trust this guy. He’s a Deep State plant whose sole purpose is to muddy the waters.
 
I bet they're so perfect that listening to them may combust the ears of mere mortals.

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Meanwhile Biden extorts Ukraine and you are comfortable with that....

Run along Coug. I like you better in the FF.
To some degree, all of our foreign policy is extortion. We’re one of the most powerful nations on earth with the biggest and best economy. We give out tons of foreign aid. We sell weapons. Everybody wants to be friends with us. There are always conditions to that friendship. It’s a quid pro quo.

The question isn’t even whether there’s a quid pro quo. The question is: Who benefits?

The aim of US foreign policy should always be to spread (philosophically) liberal democracy.
OR to derive some benefit for the American people.

It has never been and should never be acceptabke for an American official to use that status solely for their own personal gain. That’s corrupt, banana republic ********. Ironically, it’s exactly what Obama/Biden and the rest of the world were trying to STOP in Ukraine.

Thats exactly what Trump is accused of, here. The complaint says he leveraged the desire of Ukraine to ingratiate itself with America to serve his own personal interest to the detriment of American interests. It lays out a very systemic and premeditated attempt to do that.

If that’s what Biden did, then by all means exile him to Elba, but all of the evidence so far suggests that Biden acted in a way that served American policy interests by forcing out a prosecutor who was protecting corrupt oligarchs who were standing on the shoulders of the Ukranian people and hampering foreign development in that country. It may have served his self interest, but even that case is hardly air tight.

What Biden did, he shouldn’t have been the one to do it. What Trump is accused of never should have been done at all, the way it was done.

This is remedial fundamentals of government. Remedial fundamentals of right and wrong. You guys know this stuff. Stop debasing yourselves over petty tribalism. The Republican Party can find somebody better.
 
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<whispers> If you remove Trump then his running mate becomes president, not one of the "overthrowers."
I was actually horrified on Twitter at the number of people who thought that
A impeachment meant removal from office and
B that Nancy Pelosi would be next in line
 
Rudy has seriously lost his ******* mind... again, this is the President's attorney speaking here...

"Giuliani said he has not heard from any of the three House committees investigating whether Trump acted improperly in his communications with the Ukrainians. Asked if he was concerned he would be subpoenaed by the House, Giuliani laughed.

"I consider them a joke. A sad joke. They have no legitimacy. I would think of challenging their subpoena on the grounds that they're not a legitimate committee," Giuliani said."

He is gonna have the living sh*t slapped out of him by these committees. I have a feeling Rudy's gonna end up doing time when this is all said and done.
 
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