The Impeachment Thread

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VolStrom said:
I want to know who changed the whistleblower form to remove the statement that it is first hand information. Once that comes out then the poop will hit the fan, because I'm pretty certain that the democrats are behind it. This is all going to implode right back in Pelosi's face and you can already see it because she started out her sham press conference with pucker lips talking about drug prices.
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I don't think that will play at all. It's just an interesting but not relevant anecdote. The whistle blower statute is pretty clear about it.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
That is exactly why the ICIG office exists and is the first point of contact. The whistleblower went around that.
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IDC. It only matters to me if the whistleblower is truthful and others verify it. If you guys want to chase this story down a rabbit hole be my guest. If the members of the House Intelligence Committee did something wrong that's a separate issue and they will have their day in court too, but it won't make Trump innocent.
 
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Too much damage has been done. We must now have all office notes and working papers from Schitt’s office made public for the sake of honest oversight and transparency. Our Democracy is at stake here! 😂
 
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Hunerwadel said:
IDC. It only matters to me if the whistleblower is truthful and others verify it. If you guys want to chase this story down a rabbit hole be my guest. If the members of the House Intelligence Committee did something wrong that's a separate issue and they will have their day in court too.
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@hog88 already said it. Protection applies as you follow the process.

BTW nice ends justifies the means argument 👍
 
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It’s like watching the Russian collusion hoax. We’ve seen all this before and we already know the outcome.
Dims will be triggered, but there will be another and another.
 
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VolStrom said:
I hope I don't live long enough to see another democrat ever get elected to the presidency. If I do the members of congress better treat him just like Trump has been treated.
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That's already happened with Clinton and Obama. So you will likely get your wish again.
 
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37L1 said:
I don't think that will play at all. It's just an interesting but not relevant anecdote. The whistle blower statute is pretty clear about it.
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I would like to know why the reported complaint was transferred to the new form instead of reported as submitted on the original form. Might be purely anecdotal information... but why do it? 🤷‍♂️
 
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evillawyer said:
Here's Plumpeo playing dumb when asked about what he knows about the Trump call to the Ukrainian president

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When has any politician directly and honestly answered a question? He did nothing other than most. He was asked one question and discussed a different topic. Welcome to the world of politics.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
IDC. It only matters to me if the whistleblower is truthful and others verify it. If you guys want to chase this story down a rabbit hole be my guest. If the members of the House Intelligence Committee did something wrong that's a separate issue and they will have their day in court too, but it won't make Trump innocent.
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The transcript shows Trump is innocent. The whistle-blower is the one that might not be.

That person upon being told of the "allegations" should have immediately advised whomever told them of their concerns to contact the IG then contacted the IG themselves.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I would like to know why the reported complaint was transferred to the new form instead of reported as submitted on the original form. Might be purely anecdotal information... but why do it? 🤷‍♂️
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Because some attorney told them to, that's my bet.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I would like to know why the reported complaint was transferred to the new form instead of reported as submitted on the original form. Might be purely anecdotal information... but why do it? 🤷‍♂️
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Its privileged, because the IG said hello to a current or former president at some point, maybe.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
“Agree with my subjective speculation or you’re a mouth breather?” 😂 You can do better than that.

Not really, at this point. The students who couldn’t have drafted that complaint with the relevant information and time to do the research were in the minority by the start of my third year of law school. I’ve worked with some good secretaries and paralegals who could have put that together, too. There are many lawyers who couldn’t have done it, but I don’t know anything about this guy that makes me think he’s a moron.

I do think it’s interesting that this theory is based on the presumption of an anonymous person’s inadequacy.

I have no illusions that they’ve “got him this time.” During the Mueller probe I realized that there is no objective criteria for his removal and that there are too many people who have reached the point of just not having a threshold.

I don’t think think there’s anything Trump could do, short of some Ashton Kutcher style reveal where he says he’s still a Democrat and you all got punk’d, that would make some of you support his removal from office.

If he gets removed, it will be because Biden tanks and McConnel sees a lane open up for a more stable, conservative candidate to fill his lane. Not going to happen.
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I'm not sure how much speculation there needs to be. Pelosi admitted to seeing the complaint in advance. Schiff knew about it in advance.

You can't tell me one or the other didn't send someone to "help" with that complaint. Again, it was too well formatted to be your normal, run of the mill fraud, waste and abuse complaint.

Combine that with the rule changes about second and third hand information right before this complaint went out.

Add in the fact it was on a code word clearance server and was classified (as I'd expect communications between world leaders to be and should be)

What else don't we know yet?

If this, again, doesn't start to stink to you, I really don't know what would. If this was your case and this kind of evidence was possibly tainted in this fashion, you'd blow a gasket.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm not sure how much speculation there needs to be. Pelosi admitted to seeing the complaint in advance. Schiff knew about it in advance.

You can't tell me one or the other didn't send someone to "help" with that complaint. Again, it was too well formatted to be your normal, run of the mill fraud, waste and abuse complaint.

Combine that with the rule changes about second and third hand information right before this complaint went out.

Add in the fact it was on a code word clearance server and was classified (as I'd expect communications between world leaders to be and should be)

What else don't we know yet?

If this, again, doesn't start to stink to you, I really don't know what would. If this was your case and this kind of evidence was possibly tainted in this fashion, you'd blow a gasket.
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Well, they did believe Blasey Ford's hippocampus.
 
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