The Impeachment Thread

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VolStrom said:
You don't think that an alleged whistleblower being coached by a member of congress is a problem? You need to look at the facts man.
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The whistle blower asking for and receiving advice on the best way to proceed in exposing a crime is not the same as being coached. Now if Schiff came to him and ask if you have any dirt you can share with me then there's a problem. Basically the same one Trump has now.
 
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But did anyone check whether the DOJ had its fingers crossed behind its back? Let's be honest, if the documents would get Trump impeached based on their content, there's no way he's preserving them. He'll instead take a chance on beating an obstruction-based impeachment.

 
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Hunerwadel said:
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The whistle blower asking for and receiving advice on the best way to proceed in exposing a crime is not the same as being coached. Now if Schiff came to him and ask if you have any dirt you can share with me then there's a problem. Basically the same one Trump has now.
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There isn't one CIA officer, FBI agent, IRS employee that hasn't been trained on IG reporting procedures and whistle-blower protections. Not a damn 1.
 
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evillawyer said:
But did anyone check whether the DOJ had its fingers crossed behind its back? Let's be honest, if the documents would get Trump impeached based on their content, there's no way he's preserving them. He'll instead take a chance on beating an obstruction-based impeachment.

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Now insert your statement above from Schitt’s office and the “failing NYTs” in the same crossed pinky context 😂
 
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RockyTop85 said:
This is the second time in a week that somebody has insisted that their “but Obama” wasn’t meant to excuse Trump’s behavior, but couldn’t explain the intent in any way that fit with the context of the conversation and their point wasn’t really supported by the “but Obama.”

Maybe I should see it as progress and be heartened by it.
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Nice try counselor. I don't recall ever mentioning "but Obama" once in this conversation. Please point to where I used those words, please. You see what you want to see, read into it what you want to read into it, just like the rest of us. As far as I am concerned, it fit into the conversation by showing the perils of whistle blowers no matter what assurance/protections are given to encourage them coming forward. You don't see it? Too bad for you. Perhaps an optometrist could help you there or a cold beer to help you chill out and gain some perspective.

Might have missed it in all the verbiage since you can't give a simple yes or no answer, but I'll ask again, just for amusement: Do you see Snowden or Manning as heroes? I'm assuming you don't, as you referred to their acts as criminal while the whistle blower worked within the framework of the law to come forward. Is that a correct assumption on my part? Or did the information they provided excuse the criminality a la Pentagon Papers?
 
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Hunerwadel said:
All of this shoot the messenger and sully the left is just a distraction of the real crime here. Its a lot of noise but is not the issue.
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100 % correct.

And it is telling that still no one but the shrillest of the shrill defends what Trump did. Its just a collection of process objections and whataboutisms. May work with the base as they are ignoramuses as is. But not for people who can read and reason and such.
 
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evillawyer said:
But did anyone check whether the DOJ had its fingers crossed behind its back? Let's be honest, if the documents would get Trump impeached based on their content, there's no way he's preserving them. He'll instead take a chance on beating an obstruction-based impeachment.

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Nah, he should quash and shred it. You Dumbs have no problem with that right?
 
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hog88 said:
There isn't one CIA officer, FBI agent, IRS employee that hasn't been trained on IG reporting procedures and whistle-blower protections. Not a damn 1.
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Most of us have been trained in many things. That doesn't mean when some serious SHTF we don't need advice and maybe from many different sources.
 
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