The Liberal Argument for a Higher Minimum Wage

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#826
VolStrom said:
Have you ever wondered what our legacy will be in 2000 years when our civilization has destroyed itself? I'm guessing part of Mount Rushmore and maybe Stone Mountain if it doesn't get blown up in the next few decades.
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Our legacy will be a pile of rubbish and broken electronics with an epitaph of “a people that squandered a land of great resources and opportunities in order not to hurt anyone’s feelings”.
 
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VolStrom said:
Have you ever wondered what our legacy will be in 2000 years when our civilization has destroyed itself? I'm guessing part of Mount Rushmore and maybe Stone Mountain if it doesn't get blown up in the next few decades.
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They will find Cadillac Ranch and think it’s some kind of Stonehenge for us.
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VolStrom said:
Have you ever wondered what our legacy will be in 2000 years when our civilization has destroyed itself? I'm guessing part of Mount Rushmore and maybe Stone Mountain if it doesn't get blown up in the next few decades.
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BLM are gonna tear those down
 
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hog88 said:
And the Romans thought the same way at one time and how did that work out for their republic?
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What?

The republic failed because they kept consolidating power away from the people into an elite class of land owners. That's what all the civil wars were about. The Juluii didnt take over because of some populist movement.
 
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LouderVol said:
What?

The republic failed because they kept consolidating power away from the people into an elite class of land owners. That's what all the civil wars were about. The Juluii didnt take over because of some populist movement.
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You need to look up how they kept consolidating. It was appeasing new “citizens” that had no ties or care about the future of the empire.
 
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hog88 said:
You need to look up how they kept consolidating. It was appeasing new “citizens” that had no ties or care about the future of the empire.
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". Its organization was descended from that of early Roman Army, and the centuries were organized into tiers rank and property with cavalry equites at the top and unarmed and unpropertied at the bottom. "
Elections in the Roman Republic - Wikipedia

"The first property class and the equites combined for 98 votes, and if they were unanimous a candidate would be declared elected and no other centuries would vote. If no majority was reached, balloting would continue through the lower property classes until a majority was reached"

"Elections in the Roman Republic were often characterized by tension between the patricians and the plebeians and, as modern scholarship has shown, were dominated by the oligarchic elite"

Sounds like the really opened up voting to the masses with less than 10% voting.
"From what we know of how the voting was structured historians have estimated that at most between 6,000 and 16,800 could have voted in that election. With an electorate of 910,000, even the most generous guesses put voter turnout below 10%.[25]"

They may have thrown out empty promises, they were politicians. But it wasnt some great upselling of voters that doomed the interest of Rome. It was the landed elite who constantly took power away from the rest of Roman's with their control of voting
 
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#838
VolStrom said:
Have you ever wondered what our legacy will be in 2000 years when our civilization has destroyed itself? I'm guessing part of Mount Rushmore and maybe Stone Mountain if it doesn't get blown up in the next few decades.
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The way the Corp of Engineers is seizing marginal crop land (calling it wetlands) and forcing the home building on the best crop land, the legacy will be the idiots starved them selves to death by wasting their most productive crop land.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Greed. McDonald’s CEO made almost 11 million last year. He could afford easily to pay better wages, he just chooses to try to replace them with robots so instead of losing money he can make even more.
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So companies should make less profit simply to employ more workers? They should make themselves less efficient to artificially prop up some unskilled labor? Curious where you got your business degree from
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Greed. McDonald’s CEO made almost 11 million last year. He could afford easily to pay better wages, he just chooses to try to replace them with robots so instead of losing money he can make even more.
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It's not his money. It's the shareholders money. He is paid to be a good steward of that money. He makes what he makes bc the shareholders, whose money is on the line, thinks he's worth that.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Greed. McDonald’s CEO made almost 11 million last year. He could afford easily to pay better wages, he just chooses to try to replace them with robots so instead of losing money he can make even more.
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McDonald’s had roughly 200k employees in 2020 , I mean I guess he could take his $11 million and divide it up to help the franchise owners workers . Come on man ! LOL
 
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utvolpj said:
So companies should make less profit simply to employ more workers? They should make themselves less efficient to artificially prop up some unskilled labor? Curious where you got your business degree from
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Draughn’s Junior College.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Greed. McDonald’s CEO made almost 11 million last year. He could afford easily to pay better wages, he just chooses to try to replace them with robots so instead of losing money he can make even more.
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Milton Friedman recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”
 
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