The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Franklin Pierce said:
Trump announces plan to Address The Nation at 8.15pm from Mar-a-Lago on TUESDAY - just hours after his arrest in NYC

Donald Trump will deliver remarks Tuesday in his first speech since being indicted by a Manhattan grand jury – and the same day he is expected to be arraigned in New York.

An announcement from his 2024 campaign notes that Trump will speak from his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida on April 4 at 8:15 p.m.

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Pro-Trump demonstrators set up on lawn chairs near Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida on Sunday, April 2 with wielding signs, flags and bullhorns

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Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (pictured on March 30, 2023) has come under fire from Republican critics for politicizing his position and using it to go after a leader of the opposing party

Donald Trump to make his first remarks since his indictment on Tuesday | Daily Mail Online
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Well, if a few old guys in Florida sitting in chairs while eating sandwiches doesn't get Bragg to change his mind ... there is no hope.
 
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VolStrom said:
If the truth is told, the only thing Bragg wants is to have a picture of Trump being fingerprinted and a mug shot. Pretty sad actually.
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I would agree with that. It also keeps the $130K payment to Stormy Daniels relevant. It's political, but he is hardly a sympathetic victim.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would agree with that. It also keeps the $130K payment to Stormy Daniels relevant. It's political, but he is hardly a sympathetic victim.
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So tell what is illegal about Trump paying money to Stormy Daniels? Please state the actual law that makes paying her off a crime.
 
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VolStrom said:
So tell what is illegal about Trump paying money to Stormy Daniels? Please state the actual law that makes paying her off a crime.
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The New York hush-money probe of Donald Trump explained

This discusses it, without being long-winded.

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WHAT CRIMES ARE PROSECUTORS LOOKING AT?

It reads ....

"Legal experts say a case could be made that Trump falsified business records by logging Cohen's reimbursement for the Daniels payment as legal fees. But that's only a misdemeanor under New York law - unless prosecutors could prove he falsified records to conceal another crime."

The reason that I like it, is from a political standpoint. It keeps emphasis on Trump's payment to a stripper/porn star from an encounter they had while his wife was pregnant. I care nothing for this from it's legal perspective. It is a reminder of what a lowlife person that Trump is. Every appearance is that the Republican Party base doesn't care - but independent voters do. That is why I like it. Trump can't win the General Election.
 
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Rumor is Judge may issue a gag order? Interesting. Seems this may follow the Alex Jones show trial template.
 
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VolStrom said:
So tell what is illegal about Trump paying money to Stormy Daniels? Please state the actual law that makes paying her off a crime.
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Nobody had ever said it was illegal to pay her off.

If you want to believe Trump's claim that he paid her off through Michael Cohen and put an NDA in the agreement -- but didn't have an affair with her -God bless your little soul.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The New York hush-money probe of Donald Trump explained

This discusses it, without being long-winded.

Underneath:

WHAT CRIMES ARE PROSECUTORS LOOKING AT?

It reads ....

"Legal experts say a case could be made that Trump falsified business records by logging Cohen's reimbursement for the Daniels payment as legal fees. But that's only a misdemeanor under New York law - unless prosecutors could prove he falsified records to conceal another crime."

The reason that I like it, is from a political standpoint. It keeps emphasis on Trump's payment to a stripper/porn star from an encounter they had while his wife was pregnant. I care nothing for this from it's legal perspective. It is a reminder of what a lowlife person that Trump is. Every appearance is that the Republican Party base doesn't care - but independent voters do. That is why I like it. Trump can't win the General Election.
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You called it weak a few days ago and now admit it is political, whilst 2 years ago complained about election interference and now support this election interference. Glad to see you finally come out of the closet and admit it has always been political.
 
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Orangeburst said:
You called it weak a few days ago and now admit it is political, whilst 2 years ago complained about election interference and now support this election interference. Glad to see you finally come out of the closet and admit it has always been political.
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It is both a weak case and highly political. Alvin Bragg was under a lot of pressure to pursue a grand jury indictment. Nevertheless, it emphasizes that Trump and his associates laundered money to a very unseemly individual just before the 2016 Presidential Election. He denies having had an affair with Stormy Daniels, but why else do you pay someone like this $130K and have her sign a non-disclosure agreement? The whole thing makes Trump look like crap.
 
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Report: Manhattan Judge to Put ‘Gag Order’ on Donald Trump

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The legal team representing former President Donald Trump reportedly expects that the Manhattan judge will put a gag order on him as the case awaits trial.

A source close to the legal team told the Daily Mail the judge will take an “unprecedented step” to silence the 2024 presidential candidate. The gag order could potentially undercut his ability to campaign on the issue of legal corruption during the primary.

Trump breaking the gag order could potentially see him slapped with a $1,000 fine and as many as 30 days in jail, per New York law. Despite the pending order, the former president still plans to make a speech at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday evening after peacefully submitting himself to the prosecution in New York. Per the Associated Press:
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Report: Manhattan Judge to Put ‘Gag Order’ on Donald Trump

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The legal team representing former President Donald Trump reportedly expects that the Manhattan judge will put a gag order on him as the case awaits trial.

A source close to the legal team told the Daily Mail the judge will take an “unprecedented step” to silence the 2024 presidential candidate. The gag order could potentially undercut his ability to campaign on the issue of legal corruption during the primary.

Trump breaking the gag order could potentially see him slapped with a $1,000 fine and as many as 30 days in jail, per New York law. Despite the pending order, the former president still plans to make a speech at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday evening after peacefully submitting himself to the prosecution in New York. Per the Associated Press:
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That's BS..Leak it..just like the NYT always leaked his info.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Report: Manhattan Judge to Put ‘Gag Order’ on Donald Trump

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The legal team representing former President Donald Trump reportedly expects that the Manhattan judge will put a gag order on him as the case awaits trial.

A source close to the legal team told the Daily Mail the judge will take an “unprecedented step” to silence the 2024 presidential candidate. The gag order could potentially undercut his ability to campaign on the issue of legal corruption during the primary.

Trump breaking the gag order could potentially see him slapped with a $1,000 fine and as many as 30 days in jail, per New York law. Despite the pending order, the former president still plans to make a speech at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday evening after peacefully submitting himself to the prosecution in New York. Per the Associated Press:
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I’m not quite sure how that’s legal with a presidential candidate. We are clearly in unchartered territory.
 
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davethevol said:
I’m not quite sure how that’s legal with a presidential candidate. We are clearly in unchartered territory.
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If one were issued it would just be about the case, not his ability to run.

Can't speak to New York law but when you have posts of baseball bats behind the prosecutor and predicting death and destruction, an argument can be made that Trump is in essence threatening potential jurors. That would be the concern. I can see a lot of people whom would otherwise be neutral unwilling to serve for fear of retaliation if they convicted.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If one were issued it would just be about the case, not his ability to run.

Can't speak to New York law but when you have posts of baseball bats behind the prosecutor and predicting death and destruction, an argument can be made that Trump is in essence threatening potential jurors. That would be the concern. I can see a lot of people whom would otherwise be neutral unwilling to serve for fear of retaliation if they convicted.
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The case is political so this is political speech. It's a pretty big shot on the 1A. I doubt it happens, but I guess nothing should surprise me.
 
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davethevol said:
I’m not quite sure how that’s legal with a presidential candidate. We are clearly in unchartered territory.
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While I think that this particular indictment is BS, the man is still only a US citizen. There should be no favors granted to him regardless of his station in life. If he was still the sitting President, I could see the issue (kind of) with a gag order, but not for an ordinary citizen, candidate or not. Sorry, JMO. I personally don't ascribe to the President being anything more than a citizen of the US, bound by the same laws that you and I are.
 
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Weezy said:
The case is political so this is political speech. It's a pretty big shot on the 1A. I doubt it happens, but I guess nothing should surprise me.
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He could not put out a statement saying he'd kill any juror who voted guilty. The 1A is not absolute.
 
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