The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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LouderVol said:
no its not. Trump never says he is going to go after Raffensperger for that alleged criminal offense. this is again you putting words into Trump's mouth. You are creating the crime, and then reading into the conversation to put what you want there. Trump saying you can't let a criminal act happen seems like a perfectly legal conversation to be had. It may be weird for a president to have that conversation with Raffensperger, it may be different, but its not criminal.

I have been in plenty of public and private meetings with one official saying to another, or the public/civilian, that something can't be done because its illegal happens a good bit. and that if you do do that, it would be a crime. never once been an issue, and usually its seen as a good thing. its not until Trump doing it that people freak out.
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I didn't put any words in Trump's mouth. I quoted him directly.

Trump doesn't say that he is going after him ... but he heavily implies that someone would, when he tells Raffensperger that both he and his lawyer would be at risk, if they didn't take action .... which was a veiled threat and not true at all. Raffensperger was not at risk over anything - and he had already investigated and debunked Trump's allegations.
 
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luthervol said:
The Orange Man has a well documented 40 year history of operating though intimidation and threats. Only a fool would ignore that history. It's the whole chickens coming home to roost...........finally.
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How many times has he been convicted with a crime for intimidation and threats in 40 years??? Hell yall couldn't find anything in the last 6 years.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You would not pretend to be this naive if it concerned a Democrat either.

1) During the phone call, Raffensperger tells Trump that he has ALREADY investigated each of the allegations of fraud, which Trump is alluding to, and there was no validity to any of them, including his allegations against Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Trump tells Raffensperger that thousands of dead people voted. Raffensperger corrects him by saying that it was only 4.

2) If Trump only cared about uncovering fraud, he would not have been so specific about how many votes he needed to be "found". It was 11,780. This was not a random number either, as Trump even acknowledges. It was what he needed to win. That was the purpose of the phone call; not fraud ... but overturning the outcome of the election.
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I hope they ran all 4 cases down and prosecuted, regardless of who they voted for.
 
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'Merchant of death' Viktor Bout urges Trump to seek asylum in Russia because His Life Is In DANGER From Government threats and the Stormy Daniels probe

  • The convicted arms dealer sent a telegram to Trump warning he was in danger
Former 'Merchant of of Death' arms dealer Viktor Bout has issued a bizarre warning to former President Donald Trump saying his 'life is in danger.'

'First and foremost, I consider that his life is in danger and that the legal process which has now begun in New York, won't end in Donald Trump being convicted and barred from the election.

'Most likely he will simply be eliminated there,' he said.

'Merchant of death' Viktor Bout urges Trump to seek asylum in Russia because his life is in DANGER | Daily Mail Online
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
'Merchant of death' Viktor Bout urges Trump to seek asylum in Russia because His Life Is In DANGER From Government threats and the Stormy Daniels probe

  • The convicted arms dealer sent a telegram to Trump warning he was in danger
Former 'Merchant of of Death' arms dealer Viktor Bout has issued a bizarre warning to former President Donald Trump saying his 'life is in danger.'

'First and foremost, I consider that his life is in danger and that the legal process which has now begun in New York, won't end in Donald Trump being convicted and barred from the election.

'Most likely he will simply be eliminated there,' he said.

'Merchant of death' Viktor Bout urges Trump to seek asylum in Russia because his life is in DANGER | Daily Mail Online
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Why do you post goofy crap like this? LOL.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Polling and historical tendencies.

A President with the approval and economic numbers of Biden does not get re-elected typically. The Ds know that. The only way the Ds have the WH in 2025 is if the Rs nominate someone who can't get the independent vote. Trump is that person.

Trump and Trump backed candidates have lost due to accelerated underperformance with suburban independent voters in 18, 20, 22 battleground states. TThere is no path to victory for Trump without reversing this trend with Independents in Atlanta, Philly, Minny, Milwaukee, Detroit suburbs and Clark (NV) and Maricopa County. This is a nationwide problem for Trump but it's the difference between winning and losing in GA, NV, AZ, MN, WI, MI, PA...
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Imagine an electorate that would look at accomplishments rather than personalities. Imagine an electorate that would demand campaigns be about realistic plans rather than a pep rally as realistic as how Vandy is going to smear Bama for the football NC. You would really have to imagine hard because we don't have that electorate. If we did, all it would take is to chart what happened with Trump as president vs how biden has screwed everything he touched, and it would be game over. At least half the people in this country deserve what's coming when the mighty fall happens.
 
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AM64 said:
So if I said "You can't jump off that cliff; it's a big risk to you." Is that a threat?
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No, because it's obvious what the risk is.

What is the big risk Trump is threatening Raff and his lawyer with?

Really, I'm curious. What is the big risk?
 
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luthervol said:
No, because it's obvious what the risk is.

What is the big risk Trump is threatening Raff and his lawyer with?

Really, I'm curious. What is the big risk?
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I was really hoping you and BB were eventually get around to explaining that for the rest of us - guess I'm about 5% convinced you're going to make the effort though. It seems the rest of us don't know what risk was behind Trump's "threats". If you don't see a risk, then how can you perceive Trump's words as a threat? A lot of us see diddling with the election system for gain, laxity/insecurity in handling votes and voting records, and doubt about voting equipment as threats to our system of government; but that's no direct threat to Raffensperger - unless he knowingly undermined the process.
 
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AM64 said:
I was really hoping you and BB were eventually get around to explaining that for the rest of us - guess I'm about 5% convinced you're going to make the effort though. It seems the rest of us don't know what risk was behind Trump's "threats". If you don't see a risk, then how can you perceive Trump's words as a threat? A lot of us see diddling with the election system for gain, laxity/insecurity in handling votes and voting records, and doubt about voting equipment as threats to our system of government; but that's no direct threat to Raffensperger - unless he knowingly undermined the process.
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It's the fact that he said it was a big risk, and he said it twice. That's the threat!! What risk? Why would the POTUS call you and tell you twice that you and your lawyer were facing a big risk?
He said there was a big risk (twice) when there was no apparent risk whatsoever. THREAT
If there was an obvious and logical risk - it wouldn't have been threat.
So again, what was the big risk to Raff and his lawyer?
I'll assume you will continue to have no answer which is proof that it was a threat.
 
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AM64 said:
It seems the rest of us don't know what risk was behind Trump's "threats". If you don't see a risk, then how can you perceive Trump's words as a threat?
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There is no way that you play dumb like this, if it involved a Democrat. It's annoying.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is no way that you play dumb like this, if it involved a Democrat. It's annoying.
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I watched the entire Democrat party play dumb about a sitting POTUS lying under oath and committing sexual harassment while in office. You, and others, poking your chest out and pretending somehow the Dem party is any better are liars. Are many of the Trump supporters? Yes. But stop pretending you are any better
 
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volfanhill said:
I watched the entire Democrat party play dumb about a sitting POTUS lying under oath and committing sexual harassment while in office. You, and others, poking your chest out and pretending somehow the Dem party is any better are liars. Are many of the Trump supporters? Yes. But stop pretending you are any better
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Are you sure that you don't want to go back any further than just 25 years? Because it's been rumored that JFK gave the high hard one to Marilyn Monroe ... and he may not have been completely forthcoming about it either.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Are you sure that you don't want to go back any further than just 25 years? Because it's been rumored that JFK gave the high hard one to Marilyn Monroe ... and he may not have been completely forthcoming about it either.
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Did JFK lie under oath about it? Was she an intern? Wasn't he a Dem? Are you making a point?
 
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