The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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#4,652
BowlBrother85 said:
Trump has been under investigation for mishandling classified documents for over a year. Yes, you have it backward.
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That’s great…and when a whistleblower exposes the current first family an audio somehow makes the rounds. That would make the first family under investigation being the IRS is looking and questioning financial records.
 
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WBO said:
You raise an interesting question, who would comprise the Board? For courts martial it is supposed to be made up of serving officers, but you also have it be made up of equal or higher ranking officers.
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It would never happen but there are 17 4 stars in the Army alone. So 16 would be available.
 
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Majors said:
That’s great…and when a whistleblower exposes the current first family an audio somehow makes the rounds. That would make the first family under investigation being the IRS is looking and questioning financial records.
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You are talking about Gary Shapley ... a Republican operative with an agenda.
 
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hog88 said:
If Milley made that call on his own volition he should have been courts martialed.
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No kidding...so we agree he did do it why he did it does not change. So Trump gets the plan and holds it, shows it, does not declassify it and sells it? and walks I don't think so...Jail them both with facts if you can.
prove it outside of all the lies. Narrowed it down to two both need to go.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
No kidding...so we agree he did do it why he did it does not change. So Trump gets the plan and holds it, shows it, does not declassify it and sells it? and walks I don't think so...Jail them both with facts if you can.
prove it outside of all the lies. Narrowed it down to two both need to go.
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Are you embellishing again?
 
#4,657
#4,657
Orangeburst said:
I looked fir a transcript and could only find articles with quotes
plus I am an idiot
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I would read the passage on page 6 from the Meadows memoir first. This article below transcribes it.

Veteran Reporter Points Out Key Passage in Mark Meadows Biography Undercutting Trump’s Latest Docs Defense

Next I would watch this CNN video below.

It includes the complete audio recording of Trump speaking to people who were working on the Meadows book. The description from the Meadows book and what Trump describes that Milley gave to him are not in precisely the same language ... but it should be clear that both page 6 of the Meadows book and Trump on the audio recording, are talking about the same documentation - which Trump acknowledges many times to still be classified material.

 
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Which sequel are we watching? Rissia gate, faux impeachment 1 or 2, Mar a Lago gate, various State persecutions?

YGHN, right?
 
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Caculator said:
Which sequel are we watching? Rissia gate, faux impeachment 1 or 2, Mar a Lago gate, various State persecutions?

YGHN, right?
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We'll see what happens ... but for the first time ... Trump is under federal indictment over this. So it already has very little in common with the other things that you are describing.
 
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#4,662
BowlBrother85 said:
LOL.

Both the audio recording and the Meadows book, specifically refer to the documents as being something which Mark Milley had typed up and given to him. The only material which meets that description would be classified ... unless Trump had declassified it ... but here's the problem : Trump says during the audio recording that he hadn't declassified it.
Lol
You are kidding yourself. Not that I'm surprised.
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Again what collaborating evidence is there that the actual document he is holding is the document he is referencing.. would you put it past him to be holding blank paper while making the same claim??? I wouldn't knowing how big his ego is...
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Again what collaborating evidence is there that the actual document he is holding is the document he is referencing
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The contents of page 6 in the Mark Meadows book "The Chief's Chief," is the corroborating evidence.

On the audio recording from July of 2021, Trump is speaking to a room of people who were working on getting that book published. Trump and the Meadows book describe the documentation being cited in very similar and specific details - which Trump admits is still classified material.

Donald Trump shared classified information with people who were helping Mark Meadows write a memoir, and that classified information was then used as source material in the memoir itself.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Again what collaborating evidence is there that the actual document he is holding is the document he is referencing.. would you put it past him to be holding blank paper while making the same claim??? I wouldn't knowing how big his ego is...
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Look at post #4,657 up above in this thread. It's pretty clear cut.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The contents of page 6 in the Mark Meadows book "The Chief's Chief," is the corroborating evidence.

On the audio recording from July of 2021, Trump is speaking to a room of people who were working on getting that book published. Trump and the Meadows book describe the documentation being cited in very similar and specific details - which Trump admits is still classified material.

Donald Trump shared classified information with people who were helping Mark Meadows write a memoir, and that classified information was then used as source material in the memoir itself.
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What classified evidence? Produce the document in question
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL.

Both the audio recording and the Meadows book, specifically refer to the documents as being something which Mark Milley had typed up and given to him. The only material which meets that description would be classified ... unless Trump had declassified it ... but here's the problem : Trump says during the audio recording that he hadn't declassified it.

You are kidding yourself. Not that I'm surprised.
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You really need to read this politico article talking about the president’s authority to declassify material. The President can actually talk about classified material and just with him talking about it, declassifies said material. I think you might like it. Give it a read.
 
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loggervol said:
You really need to read this politico article talking about the president’s authority to declassify material. The President can actually talk about classified material and just with him talking about it, declassifies said material. I think you might like it. Give it a read.
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Even accepting that as 100% true (and it's a matter of dispute), your point is irrelevant ...

... because Donald Trump was not the President of the United States at the time of this audio recording in July of 2021. As a matter of fact, during the recording, Trump even says that as President he could have declassified it ... but then he follows that up by acknowledging that now he can't. He even adds further that "But this is classified." During that audio recording, Trump demonstrates both an understanding of the law, and an awareness that he is breaking it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Even accepting that as 100% true (and it's a matter of dispute), your point is irrelevant ...

... because Donald Trump was not the President of the United States at the time of this audio recording in July of 2021. As a matter of fact, during the recording, Trump even says that as President he could have declassified it ... but then he follows that up by acknowledging that now he can't. He even adds further that "But this is classified." During that audio recording, Trump demonstrates both an understanding of the law, and an awareness that he is breaking it.
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You do realize that this document was never to of been found in his procession?
He very clearly could of been holding The Atlantic article
 
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Caculator said:
What classified evidence? Produce the document in question
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The classified documents that were being discussed on the audio recording, and also referenced in Mark Meadows book.

Of course, those documents were shredded months ago ... but if you think that saves Trump here? You are wrong.
 
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Orangeburst said:
You do realize that this document was never to of been found in his procession?
He very clearly could of been holding The Atlantic article
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No ... because the people he was talking to on the recording were the same people who mentioned the documents in the book they were working on. I have already explained that. The excerpt from the Meadows book specifically says that Trump was citing material which had been given to him by Mark Milley. That is also what Trump is heard saying on the audio recording from July of 2021. Trump even acknowledges on the recording that this document he is holding is still classified.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No ... because the people he was talking to on the recording were the same people who mentioned the documents in the book they were working on. I have already explained that. The excerpt from the Meadows book specifically says that Trump was citing material which had been given to him by Mark Milley. That is also what Trump is heard saying on the audio recording from July of 2021. Trump even acknowledges on the recording that this document he is holding is still classified.
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We’ll see but you only are looking at Swiss cheese, not cheddar
 
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Orangeburst said:
We’ll see but you only are looking at Swiss cheese, not cheddar
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I'm looking at corroborating evidence.

Without the Meadows book? There is no case here.

With the Meadows book? There is a smoking gun. Trump discussed classified information with a room of people who then used that information as source material in a book. That is indisputable. The details of the material being described on both ends is too specific and similar.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Even accepting that as 100% true (and it's a matter of dispute), your point is irrelevant ...

... because Donald Trump was not the President of the United States at the time of this audio recording in July of 2021. As a matter of fact, during the recording, Trump even says that as President he could have declassified it ... but then he follows that up by acknowledging that now he can't. He even adds further that "But this is classified." During that audio recording, Trump demonstrates both an understanding of the law, and an awareness that he is breaking it.
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All he has to do is say that he declassified it and there’s really nothing they can do. It wasn’t troop movement and it wasn’t nuclear codes. And, the only one dumb enough to plan a war with Iran was Milley. Hot air from the liar of joint chiefs. Milley’s already thrown Biden under the bus when they pulled the troops out of Afghanistan.

He (Trump) knew they were recording him.

Why haven’t they charged him with this. This conversation is not in the charges.
 
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