The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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whodeycin85 said:
So Nixon could but Gore and Pence couldn't??
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Those elections are not analogous to each other.

And once again, the United States Constitution does not contain a provision which allows the Vice President to discriminately cast aside the electoral college votes of his own choosing, and it makes no sense that it would, under a democratic system of elections.

If Al Gore had the power to try and overturn the outcome of the 2000 Presidential Election, he would have done it.

If he had tried ... the 2000 Bush Campaign would have sued him ... and won. The role of the VP during certification is strictly procedural. The VP calls the electoral college votes into roll. Nothing more ... Nothing less.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Yea, because it shows it's a political prosecution and election interference. Still don't want him as POTUS but he is better then Biigh
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Lots of criminals have skated on technicalities but most of the time, it hasn't been political. So, in reality, you're defending his criminality and hoping he gets walk. Purely for tribal, political beliefs, right? At least make an effort to be intellectually honest about it
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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What about the classified documents case that Jack Smith filed in Florida, which is in the jurisdiction of a Trump-appointed Judge named Aileen Cannon, who has ruled in Trump's favor in the past? That case in Florida seems inconvenient to Mark Levin's insinuation that Jack Smith is Judge-shopping.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What about the classified documents case that Jack Smith filed in Florida, which is in the jurisdiction of a Trump-appointed Judge named Aileen Cannon, who has ruled in Trump's favor in the past? That case in Florida seems inconvenient to Mark Levin's insinuation that Jack Smith is Judge-shopping.
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Maybe Levin will send a tweet out on it. Maybe not. I have no control over Levin.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Lots of criminals have skated on technicalities but most of the time, it hasn't been political. So, in reality, you're defending his criminality and hoping he gets walk. Purely for tribal, political beliefs, right? At least make an effort to be intellectually honest about it
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That is not going to happen, too brainwashed. When somebody has to use a case 60+ years old in an attempt to prove a point then they are pissing into the wind and their prescience is only to stir crap. Desperate people say and do Desperate things. What's more, you hate it for them, your are sorry for them, and you pray for them.

Also, GA indictment week is coming and it is going to be hell for some.
 
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GordonC said:
Levin is better than this, very poor choice of words:
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Or, we can look at how the Etymological Dictionary describes "peanut gallery", which is indeed the connotation which Mr. Levin was intending. Sorry, there was no racist intent as you are trying to infer. Leftist always try to change the facts when the facts don't fit their narrative. I call BS!

Peanut butter is attested by 1892; peanut brittle "hard toffee with peanuts roasted in it" is from 1894. Peanut gallery "topmost (and cheapest) rows of a theater" is from 1874, American English, from the peanuts sold as inexpensive snacks; peanuts "trivial sum" is from 1934; peanut for "small or unimportant person" is by 1942. The Peanuts newspaper comic strip by U.S. cartoonist Charles M. Schulz (1922-2000) debuted under that name on Oct. 2, 1950.
 
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Tman44 said:
Or, we can look at how the Etymological Dictionary describes "peanut gallery", which is indeed the connotation which Mr. Levin was intending. Sorry, there was no racist intent as you are trying to infer. Leftist always try to change the facts when the facts don't fit their narrative. I call BS!

Peanut butter is attested by 1892; peanut brittle "hard toffee with peanuts roasted in it" is from 1894. Peanut gallery "topmost (and cheapest) rows of a theater" is from 1874, American English, from the peanuts sold as inexpensive snacks; peanuts "trivial sum" is from 1934; peanut for "small or unimportant person" is by 1942. The Peanuts newspaper comic strip by U.S. cartoonist Charles M. Schulz (1922-2000) debuted under that name on Oct. 2, 1950.
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I like Levin a lot. I am not a leftist and am not suggesting there was racist intent on his part. I think it was a poor choice of words, given the context.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It makes no sense that a Vice President would have such power in a democratic system of elections.
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What do you think they wanted Pence to do? One of the biggest lies of the 2020 election is that they wanted Pence to declare Trump president. This is not the case. There were state legislatures that have the authority over their elections that had written letters to Pence requesting more time to review their elections. Since Jan 6th was not constitutionally set in stone, this time would've been completely lawful. Would this have changed the outcome, most likely no. But the claim that he wanted Pence to declare him the winner is a false one.
 
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tnmarktx said:
What do you think they wanted Pence to do? One of the biggest lies of the 2020 election is that they wanted Pence to declare Trump president. This is not the case. There were state legislatures that have the authority over their elections that had written letters to Pence requesting more time to review their elections. Since Jan 6th was not constitutionally set in stone, this time would've been completely lawful. Would this have changed the outcome, most likely no. But the claim that he wanted Pence to declare him the winner is a false one.
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Alternative facts, baby !!
 
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lawgator1 said:
Alternative facts, baby !!
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You're a lawyer, you should know that the 6th is not constitutionally set in stone.

The only Electoral College deadline specifically required by the Constitution is noon on January 20. In case you needed to know
 
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tnmarktx said:
What do you think they wanted Pence to do? One of the biggest lies of the 2020 election is that they wanted Pence to declare Trump president. This is not the case. There were state legislatures that have the authority over their elections that had written letters to Pence requesting more time to review their elections. Since Jan 6th was not constitutionally set in stone, this time would've been completely lawful. Would this have changed the outcome, most likely no. But the claim that he wanted Pence to declare him the winner is a false one.
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I've never said that Donald Trump wanted Mike Pence to "declare him the winner."

Donald Trump wanted Mike Pence to decline to count the votes from electors in 7 strategically selected states, which they had lost (Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico), during the formal certification of the electoral college vote on January 6, 2021.

Following the logic of this "alternate elector" theory, those uncounted electoral college votes would then be sent back to the Republican-controlled state legislatures in those 7 states, and those state legislatures could then appoint a different slate of electors (the so-called alternate electors), who would in turn vote for the ticket of Trump/Pence, which would put them over 270 electoral college votes. Mike Pence would then count the votes from these new slates of electors appointed by Republican state legislators. Thus, as the theory goes, Trump/Pence would remain in office.

However, there is NOTHING in either the United States Constitution or Federal Election Commission law which provides for any of this. The Vice President's role in the formal certification of the electoral college vote does not grant him/her the discretionary authority to decline to count votes from electors, who had already been legally chosen by their state legislatures in accordance with FEC law, based on the outcome of the popular vote in their respective states.

The role of the Vice President, during the formal certification of the electoral college vote, is strictly that of procedural formality. The Vice President is not anointed the discretionary authority to count, or decline to count electoral votes. The Vice President simply calls all of the electoral college votes into roll before the United States Congress.

If such an "alternate elector" scheme was legally viable, it would present a colossal conflict of interest for the Vice President, who is frequently also a candidate on the ballot. It makes no sense that this would be possible under a democratic system of elections. This marked a very clear attempt by Trump and his supporters to subvert democracy.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Actually, it's that blatant, overt hated of Trump that causes me to support him even more. The left wants to cram their ideology down my throat so badly that they resort to the tactics we are seeing on a daily basis... Against ONE MAN... so there must be something he is bringing to the party that absolutely scares them to death. So let's find out what it is.

Trump 2024.
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