The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[Sudden Impact]

What's the big deal?
More than likely, The Grand Jury never saw it before they voted on it. Who cares?

CRY WOLF.

Simple cut and paste, I guess nobody has ever sent an email by accident. But it was Trump? Anything to get a mistrial.

Will it change the verdict? will it cancel the indictments? Will the judge toss the case because of it? No
Will it be haggled over in Social Media or does it change anything. Yes and No.
It did speed up the inevitable and gave some reporters some overtime.

Get over it. Non issue.

This was a draft that could be easily cut and pasted into the final product. Nothing here to pursue.

 

[Orangeburst]

digging a deeper hole

 

[DinkinFlicka]

@Orangeburst I'm sorry of accusing you of being Justin from the Boro. @OrangeBoro, you are Justin from the boro.

It wouldn't be shocking. Boro is every bit as unhinged and stupid as Justin, and Justin has been caught remaking his profile under a different name before.

 

[Sudden Impact]

This latest Georgia fusillade is utterly ridiculous, certainly at least concerning the alternative slate of electors.

Trump Indictment Four: Too much

That lays it out in laymans terms. Complete bats**t crazy. I get that they are throwing the kitchen sink in there to get RICO and then hope to turn some of his team but this isnt some drug lord where everyone is wiling to look the other way.

It just weighs in of more to come. Trump will be indicted to He!!, more to come or added count on it.
Others not previously mentioned will be indicted as well.
Got the feeling we are in Qtr 1 of indictments. Members of Congress...

 

[DinkinFlicka]

It’s been an honor to be mentioned in the same sentence as you @Orangeburst

I'm sure it's an honor for you to be mentioned in the same sentence of *anything that isn't* a steaming pile of cow sh*t.

 

[C-south]

It’s how they tallied votes as well.

 

[Majors]

It’s how they tallied votes as well.

Georgia can’t get out of their own way.

 

[hog88]

So you think it was all show in the past when Congressional members got on the mic and got red faced while arguing their positions? Or maybe because afterwards, they set aside their differences and agreed to compromise?

100% The vast majority of congress is nothing more than theatrics designed to keep up divided and them in power.

 

[Delmar]

Just goes to show that the cases they bring are dunks, not half court shots. The overwhelming majority plead out to avoid even more pain.

Yep. The feds don’t usually indict unless they know they have you dead to rights. Very unusual when they lose.

 

[lawgator1]

What's the big deal?
More than likely, The Grand Jury never saw it before they voted on it. Who cares?

CRY WOLF.

Simple cut and paste, I guess nobody has ever sent an email by accident. But it was Trump? Anything to get a mistrial.

Will it change the verdict? will it cancel the indictments? Will the judge toss the case because of it? No
Will it be haggled over in Social Media or does it change anything. Yes and No.
It did speed up the inevitable and gave some reporters some overtime.

Get over it. Non issue.

This was a draft that could be easily cut and pasted into the final product. Nothing here to pursue.

Correct. The grand jury doesn't write the indictment, they vote on it. That the document was inadvertently posted prior to the vote is utterly meaningless.

 

[Septic]

Yep. The feds don’t usually indict unless they know they have you dead to rights. Very unusual when they lose.

The hilarity for me is watching all these trump nut huggers grouse and cry about 'who' is bringing the charges rather than actually trying to refute the charges that are being brought.

These bozos actually think that it's a defense and that their opinions is going to suddenly influence the rule of law.

I for one can't wait to see Jack Smith wipe his ass with Donalds "report" on Monday.

I'd pay money to watch that happen if he did it literally.

 

[Gandalf]

Fewer than 1% of federal criminal defendants were acquitted in 2022

Just 17% of the time when they actually go to trial. 8% have their cases dismissed.

Yeah, the problem is that for almost anyone, they can just bury you and outlast you and grind you down. The wheels of gov grind slow but grind fine. This is especially true in almost all cases which arent political, where you have no other court to push your side of things.

This is different though, It is a billionaire who can afford to hire whatever lawyers necessary and keep hiring them as long as it takes and has a huge media pulpit to get out his message. Almost nobody else is like this. Thats why they can crush you, guilt doesnt really matter. So often its just easier/cheaper to plead out.

None of this applies to county level or state prosecutors though, who typically throw as much crap against the wall as they can to see who falls out. A lot of weak cases.

 

[RockyTop85]

Correct. The grand jury doesn't write the indictment, they vote on it. That the document was inadvertently posted prior to the vote is utterly meaningless.

And the clerk reports no bills as well as true bills. I imagine this will get litigated if there’s any problem with it.

 

[Septic]

Correct. The grand jury doesn't write the indictment, they vote on it. That the document was inadvertently posted prior to the vote is utterly meaningless.

But since the sequence isn't to thier feeble understanding, it's clearly evidence of a conspiracy.

 

[Orangeburst]

yea right.if you were under indictment and this happened to you you would say nothing to see

 

[RockyTop85]

Yeah, the problem is that for almost anyone, they can just bury you and outlast you and grind you down. The wheels of gov grind slow but grind fine. This is especially true in almost all cases which arent political, where you have no other court to push your side of things. T

his is different though, It is a billionaire who can afford to hire whatever lawyers necessary and keep hiring them as long as it takes and has a huge media pulpit to get out his message. Almost nobody else is like this. Thats why they can crush you, guilt doesnt really matter. So often it’s just easier/cheaper to plead out.

My understanding is that the reason so few federal defendants are acquitted is because federal prosecutors don’t have to indict every stupid run-of-the-mill case like state prosecutors do. They can pick and choose and take routine, easy cases and ignore cases with good defense issues.

So, where I’m from, the US Attorney overwhelmingly takes felon in possession of firearm cases under 922(g)1, which aren’t even slam dunks, just an uncontested layup, they don’t even have to jump high enough to dunk. They also take large quantity drug cases but they’re not taking any keystone cops **** with something that might get tossed on a search issue.

Federal courts also tend to move fairly quickly relative to state courts.

That status quo may not apply to the second Trump case. Still think Trump is cooked on the docs case unless Cannon bails him out.

 

[Septic]

Careful what you wish for.

 

[hog88]

Yeah, the problem is that for almost anyone, they can just bury you and outlast you and grind you down. The wheels of gov grind slow but grind fine. This is especially true in almost all cases which arent political, where you have no other court to push your side of things.

This is different though, It is a billionaire who can afford to hire whatever lawyers necessary and keep hiring them as long as it takes and has a huge media pulpit to get out his message. Almost nobody else is like this. Thats why they can crush you, guilt doesnt really matter. So often its just easier/cheaper to plead out.

None of this applies to county level or state prosecutors though, who typically throw as much crap against the wall as they can to see who falls out. A lot of weak cases.

I would guess one of the reasons they try to freeze the assets of defendants is to put them in a weakened position, can't pay for an effective defense. That's probably not an option in the Trump cases.

 

[lawgator1]

Careful what you wish for.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Fulton County DA sets proposed trial date in Trump-Georgia case

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has proposed a commencement trial date of March 4 in the Georgia election case of former President Donald Trump and 18 other defendants, according to court filings obtained by Fox News.

DA Willis is also proposing that arraignments for the defendants happen the week of Sept. 5.

Fulton County DA sets proposed trial date in Trump-Georgia case

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

100% The vast majority of congress is nothing more than theatrics designed to keep up divided and them in power.

Ok. You're a long time dissident. I may be wrong, but your posts certainly suggest it. You're not as old as me so you have no memory of the late 1960s -early 1970s. We have far different perspectives of the landscape

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Fani Willis' proposed trial date is one day before the Super Tuesday primaries.

 

[jmacvols1]

Chanel Rion OAN
@ChanelRion
HERE IT IS.

GA code allows Trump and the 18 defendants to SUE
@FaniforDA
for Malicious Prosecution and Abusive Litigation.

2022 Georgia Code :: Title 51 - Torts :: Chapter 7 - False Arrest, False Imprisonment, Malicious Prosecution, and Abusive Litigation :: Article 3 - Malicious Prosecution :: § 51-7-40. Right of Action for Malicious Prosecution

 

[Jxn Vol]

Fani Willis' proposed trial date is one day before the Super Tuesday primaries.

Her dad is a black panther. Apple/tree

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Ok. You're a long time dissident. I may be wrong, but your posts certainly suggest it. You're not as old as me so you have no memory of the late 1960s -early 1970s. We have far different perspectives of the landscape

Being a dissident is level headed thinking these days. Oh yeah, kick azz cover song!