The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Grand Vol said:
Doesn't change the fact the States have never given up the right to the government for law enforcement
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But that is not the issue. The issue is whether or not a governor can lawfully interfere in the prosecution of charges that are outside of his jurisdiction. This isn't a situation where the feds are involving themselves in the investigation of a crime that ought to be within the sole jurisdiction of the State of Florida.
 
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volgr said:
However, their constitutional rights are being infringed in DC.

If these trials were held in their State most of those now in DC gulags would have been found not guilty.
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The alleged criminal acts occurred in DC. No matter how DeSantis personally feels about the constitutionality of the charges, in what crazed stretch of the imagination can the governor of Florida obstruct a criminal proceeding outside of the State of Florida?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Doesn't change the fact the States have never given up the right to the government for law enforcement
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The first thing a state would have to do is be able to survive without our federal tax dollars. We the people have allowed our states to become sucklings on the teat of the federal government. Threatening to withhold federal funds is always the first move when a state tries to defy the empire.
 
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hog88 said:
The first thing a state would have to do is be able to survive without our federal tax dollars. We the people have allowed our states to become sucklings on the teat of the federal government. Threatening to withhold federal funds is always the first move when a state tries to defy the empire.
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The Feds dont exist without laundering money from States.
 
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bamawriter said:
That's not a determination that he gets to make outside of his own jurisdiction.
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So the Feds will determine if the Feds are infringing? No. There is no good way to handle this when a govt is as corrupt as the Federal Govt is today. Which is why usually it resolves through violence.
 
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volgr said:
So the Feds will determine if the Feds are infringing? No.
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The federal courts. Yes.

There is no good way to handle this when a govt is as corrupt as the Federal Govt is today. Which is why usually it resolved itself through violence.
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A better idea would be to elect fewer corrupt leaders. But I get that you're a Trump fan, so that idea isn't on the table for you.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Does federal law, or rather do federal law enforcement have more rights than the States?

Seems to me the Federal side has taken a lot more than the 10th Amendment intended especially in regards to law enforcement. Each State is and should be responsible for enforcing laws within their borders. Law enforcement has been and should be a local or State matter since it's not granted to the federal government.

And before you mention it, border control isn't a law enforcement matter though it's been made to seem that way.
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George Wallace, LBJ, and SCOTUS all say Hello
 
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Sudden Impact said:
???? Try again
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Again, change it back to the scope and name the Honest Politicians that have been put in this position. You just went generic to change the discussion which is true, which you did not answer.
Honest Politician jailed without deflecting.
 
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I have consulted with the Communist Deep State Nazi Rocket Scientist Freemason Space-Laser-Having Overlords and they have decreed that you all will henceforth be known as the "Keyboard Confederacy." The Confederacy requires a minimum age of 50, a minimum weight of 250, and the ability to stop the revolution and accept ever increasing govt spending and executive power in the event Donald Trump is elected in 2024.

Viva la revolucion!
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Again, change it back to the scope and name the Honest Politicians that have been put in this position. You just went generic to change the discussion which is true, which you did not answer.
Honest Politician jailed without deflecting.
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My comments were in general and not specifically about politicians so I felt no need to answer your stupid question. And your question is stupid because there are no honest politicians.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Maybe your state should consider denying all fed funding.
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Nothing is free, the extra money States receive is mostly created out of thin air, backed by nothing but a brutish foreign policy that bullies the rest of the world and enslaves our grandkids to unpayable debt.

Yeah, I would gladly give that up for my State to be free from it.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Are you saying the federal government doesn't have the power to enact and enforce criminal laws?
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Legit question: if they continue to abandon enforcing immigration laws and protecting our southern border, should the federal government continue to exist in its current capacity? And I’m not talking about a revolution, but would that not be a justification for states to reprise their roles within the United States?
 
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