The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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lawgator1 said:
You are ignoring both the intent issue, and the distinction between being alerted to the fact you have the documents and immediately ensuring their safe return (Biden), versus being the usual jackass that you are and defying the law, in fact then covering up your role in it (Trump).

The law recognizes the substantial difference between the two and you should, too. But you won't. Because it reminds you of how odious Trump is to the entire world.
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LOL You are seriously arguing INTENT?
 
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Sudden Impact said:
You hit the Nail on the Head, much less serve on some of the Committees they are selected.
Your second point about how they were not aware is sad as well.

Trump's scribbling notes to others on some are pretty bad, if true.
I can image how that White House was ran by the Staff during his Tenure.

Pence and Biden did commit the same crime in my eyes probably on a smaller scale, but it is what it is. Their saving grace was that they allowed searches and turned them over immediately vs delaying, hiding or moving.

Does not change the fact of "no accountability" on their part as they are accountable for doing so.

Trump showed Criminal Intent by his actions and orders with the documents by moving and hiding. He turned a simple mistake into a Punishable offense. Had he been honest, he would have gotten a slap on the wrist vs the drama we have today.
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The point that I somehow keep not getting across is more important than Biden or Pence "not knowing" they had classified documents. The issue is that classified documents must have a custodian to maintain and control access to documents. If nobody knew that Biden or Pence had classified documents, that seems a magnitude or so more troubling than Trump having classified documents and people knew he had them. In the case of Biden and Pence the documents were lost and there was no control over access because no one knew they were missing; you can't mitigate leaks with that kind of security breach because you don't know about it. The documents Trump had were in an area basically under Secret Service control; the documents were known to be there, and rightful possession was the point in dispute.

Maybe things work differently in the political world, but in the military world (at least in my day) classified documents are locked up and only available as needed to qualified individuals in a secure area. They weren't taken home for some bedtime reading. Also the last time I was in a secure area at a private company maintaining classified documents, cellphones or other recording devices were taken away before you went in. Maybe politicians are too important for that kind of security.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
How is that different then every other politician? Or person alive for that matter?
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Old School was different.
God, Country, Family, then Self. Leadership.
Today's Politician not so much.
Trump always put's himself First, Second, Third and Fourth. It's his nature and nobody will change his attitude.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Old School was different.
God, Country, Family, then Self. Leadership.
Today's Politician not so much.
Trump always put's himself First, Second, Third and Fourth. It's his nature and nobody will change his attitude.
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Today's politician meaning what the last 20 years...considering Biden been going for 50 years whens the old school cut...75 100 years?? Why is Trump held to a standard above what's acceptable today from political figures?
 
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Septic said:
It may be persecution, but it's not made up.

I'm going to enjoy watching this play out, already am.
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Ms Willis and Ms James along with the Democrat Socialist party led by Ms Pelosi and China Joe Biden would never make up charges against a political opponent. After all, they are shining examples of justice and staunch defenders of our constitution. I sleep better at night knowing they are protecting us against the root of all evil, Donald Trump.
 
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LibertyVol said:
Ms Willis and Ms James along with the Democrat Socialist party led by Ms Pelosi and China Joe Biden would never make up charges against a political opponent. After all, they are shining examples of justice and staunch defenders of our constitution. I sleep better at night knowing they are protecting us against the root of all evil, Donald Trump.
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The mental gymnastics involved in defending the guy who brought us J6 is breathtaking.

Did you see Donnys unhinged Thanksgiving message yesterday? Clearly he's stable.
 
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Septic said:
The mental gymnastics involved in defending the guy who brought us J6 is breathtaking.

Did you see Donnys unhinged Thanksgiving message yesterday? Clearly he's stable.
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Stable or unstable, he is getting fd. They are trying to take his wealth, his property, taking away his attorney's licenses and everything else. It is wrong.
 
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LibertyVol said:
Stable or unstable, he is getting fd. They are trying to take his wealth, his property, taking away his attorney's licenses and everything else. It is wrong.
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He was just reading his bible, minding his own business.

He's always the victim, always.
 
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Septic said:
The mental gymnastics involved in defending the guy who brought us J6 is breathtaking.

Did you see Donnys unhinged Thanksgiving message yesterday? Clearly he's stable.
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I read the transcript and I also read the transcript of his second message. They are going to have to put Trump in jail because if they don’t he is going to be president again. I imagine the Dems are trying to find a way to keep China Joe from running. Probably will do something during the convention. China Joe is not going to win anything against anybody. He is toast.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Not different from most politicians. Much different than most people with class and compassion.
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Most people are selfish and lack class and compassion imo... most today embody narcissism like never before especially younger generations. Morality is lost...so again why is he held to a higher standard then most?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Most people are selfish and lack class and compassion imo... most today embody narcissism like never before especially younger generations. Morality is lost...so again why is he held to a higher standard then most?
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Is your argument really, "Americans are classless - why should its president be held to a different standard?"

I've heard a lot of bad arguments that attempt to deflect from Donny being a complete piece of sh*t - i don't think I've seen any of his supporters admitting that he simply appeals to Americas deplorables. looks like Hillary was right after all.
 
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LibertyVol said:
Stable or unstable, he is getting fd. They are trying to take his wealth, his property, taking away his attorney's licenses and everything else. It is wrong.
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And that is why his support grows stronger against the anti-American evil attempting to take him down. Leftist reprobates and establishment republicans are pissed it's doing the exact opposite it's meant to achieve. His domestic enemies taking solace in small things they see as "it's working". They are attempting to make sure anyone new to politics doesn't upset their corrupt apple cart ever again (insert Greta Thunberg meme here: How dare he!). You should not be surprised they are unhinged. They only respect overwhelming defeat.
 
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Septic said:
Is your argument really, "Americans are classless - why should its president be held to a different standard?"

I've heard a lot of bad arguments that attempt to deflect from Donny being a complete piece of sh*t - i don't think I've seen any of his supporters admitting that he simply appeals to Americas deplorables. looks like Hillary was right after all.
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My argument is Trumpnis being held to a standard that no other president was held to..clinton had how many allegations of sexual assault...and was elected...trump talks shyt and everyone if offended
 
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whodeycin85 said:
My argument is Trumpnis being held to a standard that no other president was held to..clinton had how many allegations of sexual assault...and was elected...trump talks shyt and everyone if offended
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So if you want Clinton excluded on that basis certainly you believe Trump should be..
 
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