The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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lawgator1 said:
You can willfully turn right at a light and cause an accident ... due to your negligence. Doesn't mean you had criminal intent.

That he immediately returned them when it was pointed out supports an inference he lacked criminal intent.

Trump's reaction STRONGLY supports an inference he had such intent.
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I’ll see your ridiculous analogy, and raise you.

You willingly shot and killed your wife.
I also willingly shot and killed my wife.

When the cops came - you gave them the gun, let them test your hands, and showed them the body.

I threw my gun in the river, and buried the body.

You gonna compare our actions after the fact, claim negligence, and expect a pass from the DA?
 
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85SugarVol said:
I’ll see your ridiculous analogy, and raise you.

You willingly shot and killed your wife.
I also willingly shot and killed my wife.

When the cops came - you gave them the gun, let them test your hands, and showed them the body.

I threw my gun in the river, and buried the body.

You gonna compare our actions after the fact, claim negligence, and expect a pass from the DA?
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But did you shoot your wife with the intention of killing her? Will be LGs question.

Oh and what political party do you vote for....
 
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Septic said:
Agreed.

Now apply that to Trump who not only willfully kept top secret documents but refused to give them back and conspired to conceal them when asked to give them back.
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Isnt the main dispute regarding whether he was allowed to have them as a former POTUS?? AND how declassification for a PoTUs works...
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Isnt the main dispute regarding whether he was allowed to have them as a former POTUS?? AND how declassification for a PoTUs works...
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Why did Trump send out a letter the day after the raid claiming the documents were planted? Then, when he knew that BS wouldn't fly, why did he start claiming he had declassified the documents? Just by thinking about it? Why did he lie about turning them over on multiple occasions? Why did he lie to his attorneys about it? Why has Trump burnt through so many attorneys? Trying to align other documents cases with his is absurd
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Why did Trump send out a letter the day after the raid claiming the documents were planted? Then, when he knew that BS wouldn't fly, why dud he start claiming he had declassified the documents? Just by thinking about it? Why did he lie about turning them over in multiple occasions? Why did he lie to his attorneys about it? Why has Trump burnt through so many attorneys? Trying to align other documents cases with his is absurd
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Idk I cant answer those...hopefully the court will decide if it's not dismissed before then...
 
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hog88 said:
But did you shoot your wife with the intention of killing her? Will be LGs question.

Oh and what political party do you vote for....
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This of course being the most important thing to LG. How this works in his TDS saturated brain.

A thing happened:

To whom?

A Democrat= Let’s give them a pass. They probably meant well. Don’t start a thread about this.

A Republican= Does this Republican support Trump? If Yes, go to next step. If No, refer to previous step, but make sure to criticize the GOP. Maybe start a thread about this.

A Republican that supports Trump= Hang em and hang em high! No need for more information. This just goes to show how dangerous MAGA is!! Definitely start a thread about this.

Trump= After simultaneously peeing and ejaculating in pants from the incredible joy that comes with believing this could be the time we get him! Start 5 threads about this. Continue completely ignoring reality.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As was obvious a year ago, the key difference here is that when Biden learned that he had classified documents at his residence, he immediately returned them and ordered his staff to cooperate fully.

That, versus Trump, who defied numerous law full requests for the documents he had, intentionally showed them to un vetted persons, and ordered members of his team to obstruct what he had done.

That's the character difference that matters.

To some of us.
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30 year old classified documents. He "accidentally" took home.


Character masters, right?
 
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Having listened to more and more commentary on this, I have changed my mind in several key respects:

1) I do suspect that the special prosecutor went out of his way to paint Biden as suffering from cognitive decline. On the other hand, that's the thing that keeps Biden from being prosecuted. So, Biden cannot have it both ways. If he is not in significant cognitive decline he ought to be prosecuted; if he is in significant cognitive decline, someone in authority needs to step in and tell him he has to give this up.

2) Based on my own subjective impressions (and that's all any of us really has to go on), I think Biden's cognitive decline is too acute and he should not run again. (I do think it is being somewhat exaggerated by the Republicans, but that does not really matter as I think he's at a point where he is disqualified from running again).
 
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lawgator1 said:
Having listened to more and more commentary on this, I have changed my mind in several key respects:

1) I do suspect that the special prosecutor went out of his way to paint Biden as suffering from cognitive decline. On the other hand, that's the thing that keeps Biden from being prosecuted. So, Biden cannot have it both ways. If he is not in significant cognitive decline he ought to be prosecuted; if he is in significant cognitive decline, someone in authority needs to step in and tell him he has to give this up.

2) Based on my own subjective impressions (and that's all any of us really has to go on), I think Biden's cognitive decline is too acute and he should not run again. (I do think it is being somewhat exaggerated by the Republicans, but that does not really matter as I think he's at a point where he is disqualified from running again).
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Translated:

The liberal media is changing their tune on Biden. They tell me what to think. Therefore I am now changing my tune as well.

If you want to know my opinion on anything else, just watch/read the liberal MSM outlets and you will know where I stand.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Having listened to more and more commentary on this, I have changed my mind in several key respects:

1) I do suspect that the special prosecutor went out of his way to paint Biden as suffering from cognitive decline. On the other hand, that's the thing that keeps Biden from being prosecuted. So, Biden cannot have it both ways. If he is not in significant cognitive decline he ought to be prosecuted; if he is in significant cognitive decline, someone in authority needs to step in and tell him he has to give this up.

2) Based on my own subjective impressions (and that's all any of us really has to go on), I think Biden's cognitive decline is too acute and he should not run again. (I do think it is being somewhat exaggerated by the Republicans, but that does not really matter as I think he's at a point where he is disqualified from running again).
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Think of it like this...... This story coming out to the world makes America look like a joke. It doesn't matter if it's exaggerated or not. It says the reason he is not being prosecuted is because he is a feeble old man. Guaranteed we are the laughing stock of the world at the moment!
 
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KptVFL said:
Think of it like this...... This story coming out to the world makes America look like a joke. It doesn't matter if it's exaggerated or not. It says the reason he is not being prosecuted is because he is a feeble old man. Guaranteed we are the laughing stock of the world at the moment!
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I don't buy that. I think world leaders have a much lower opinion of the US if Trump is President than pretty much anyone else. The one exception being Putin, who clearly sees that as to his advantage.

If it came down to it I'd really struggle to vote for Biden. I might have to just to try to stop Trump. But I'm in Florida my vote is likely irrelevant and so I might not vote at all, in disgust at the Dems for failing to nominate someone better.

That's what I did with the gubernatorial race here between DeSantis and Charlie Crist. Could not vote for either, out of principle.

Now, if voted in Florida mattered, I'd vote for a dead skunk over Trump. Heck, I'd probably contribute to the skunk's campaign.
 
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KptVFL said:
Think of it like this...... This story coming out to the world makes America look like a joke. It doesn't matter if it's exaggerated or not. It says the reason he is not being prosecuted is because he is a feeble old man. Guaranteed we are the laughing stock of the world at the moment!
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Not a second thought on that ruling across the world. Only Here in America. We became a laughingstock in 2016. If Trump can somehow stay on the ticket and get elected, we will be even more of a laughingstock than we were in 2016
 
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lawgator1 said:
I don't buy that. I think world leaders have a much lower opinion of the US if Trump is President than pretty much anyone else. The one exception being Putin, who clearly sees that as to his advantage.

If it came down to it I'd really struggle to vote for Biden. I might have to just to try to stop Trump. But I'm in Florida my vote is likely irrelevant and so I might not vote at all, in disgust at the Dems for failing to nominate someone better.

That's what I did with the gubernatorial race here between DeSantis and Charlie Crist. Could not vote for either, out of principle.

Now, if voted in Florida mattered, I'd vote for a dead skunk over Trump. Heck, I'd probably contribute to the skunk's campaign.
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You seriously believe this don't you
 
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Jack Smith Seeks To Hide Witness Names In Trump Documents Case Due To ‘threats’​


Special counsel Jack Smith is asking the judge presiding over former President Donald Trump‘s criminal classified documents case to reconsider a ruling that would publicly disclose witness identities and their testimony, citing online threats that are now under federal investigation.

Smith asked U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Thursday to block Trump from attaching discovery evidence about the witnesses on the public court docket in the case, which concerns Trump’s alleged improper retention of classified records at his Florida resort home, Mar-a-Lago.

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Smith’s team wrote that online threats have already “happened to witnesses, law enforcement agents, judicial officers, and Department of Justice employees whose identities have been disclosed in cases in which defendant Trump is involved.”

The filing also noted that in two recent orders, Cannon has “denied the Government’s request to seal or redact certain material that was provided to the defendants in discovery.”

Cannon previously said the special counsel’s office did not provide a convincing argument for the information to remain sealed or redacted but that any information regarding national security could remain private.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Jack Smith seeks to hide witness names in Trump documents case due to 'threats'

Jack Smith, special counsel for Donald Trump's criminal classified documents case, is asking a judge to keep witness names secret.
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Idk I cant answer those...hopefully the court will decide if it's not dismissed before then...
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Dismissed is a full fledge reach. This case will run it's full cycle if Trump is not pardon. Cannon will be dismissed before this case is dismissed. You need to quit chasing cars or rainbows. I wish some of you Trumper's understood what Trump did or is accused of doing before you speak of outcomes before they happen. The problem is that some of you don't understand what that idiot did and are so stuck in the Tribal context that you don't understand what he did is a Crime. Evidently, he does because he is trying so hard to avoid court on this matter. The final problem is that we are stuck with 2 Lame duck Presidents running for election. 2nd issue is that Trump felt entitled to keep the documents and not turn them over.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Having listened to more and more commentary on this, I have changed my mind in several key respects:

1) I do suspect that the special prosecutor went out of his way to paint Biden as suffering from cognitive decline. On the other hand, that's the thing that keeps Biden from being prosecuted. So, Biden cannot have it both ways. If he is not in significant cognitive decline he ought to be prosecuted; if he is in significant cognitive decline, someone in authority needs to step in and tell him he has to give this up.

2) Based on my own subjective impressions (and that's all any of us really has to go on), I think Biden's cognitive decline is too acute and he should not run again. (I do think it is being somewhat exaggerated by the Republicans, but that does not really matter as I think he's at a point where he is disqualified from running again).
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nah..hopefully you are stuck with him..Everyone and his brother knew he was suffering from a mental decline, but your partisan eyeballs refused to admit it. Just like on several other topics, you are flat out wrong and hypocritical. People like you are the reason we are in the mess we are in today, so enjoy your rotten fruits.
 
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When did DJT change his mind? I know it is MSNBC but get real he said it, he pitched it as a Campaign Promise. So Lock him up. DJT is best at telling you what you want to hear and doing the opposite.

 
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