The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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hog88 said:
It’s a BS rule in NY that requires such a bond in order to appeal.
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It doesn’t require a bond in order to appeal. The bond stays enforcement of the judgment. He can and has appealed without posting the bond. There has been a lot of bad reporting on that.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
there was no fraud committed, there was no victim even the bank testified on trumps' behalf and said they would do business with him again. The only fraud is a judge who hated trump, who was already going to find him guilty before the trial ever started, who tried and undervalued trumps property in order to make a false indictment. This will all get thown out on appeal in a fair court with an honest judge.
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The law doesn't require a victim. He clearly broke the law. You can argue that the law is bs, but it is most certainly a law, and he broke it.
 
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Trump went well beyond saying his building is worth $XXX million. He created completely false income statements with made up income numbers to try to fool appraisers...
 
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jmacvols1 said:
the court may rule in his favor...as it should..and bring all the left wing corrupt attacks on democracy to an end
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Lol

I guess this is your way of saying you think Biden has immunity to do whatever he feels is necessary to “secure” the election. Because there is no other way to look at it.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Trump went well beyond saying his building is worth $XXX million. He created completely false income statements with made up income numbers to try to fool appraisers...
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trump said his accountants/attorneys that did the paper work included a cover sheet showing their appraisal of the property and noted that it was still up to the bank to make its own appraisel. NY developers agree with trump and trump is being wrongly persecuted by corrupt da and judge.
what background does the judge have in real estate to make his own appraisel of the value of property? he purposedly gave an undervaluation of the property (18 million) to proceed with his false indictment nd judgement.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
there was no fraud. If trump was guilty then every real estate developer in NY is guilty and trump is being singled out for persecution.
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BS. You need to read the ruling and see exactly what Trump did and think for yourself. What he did isn't normal or par for the course. It went well beyond that...
 
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jmacvols1 said:
trump said his accountants/attorneys that did the paper work included a cover sheet showing their appraisal of the property and noted that it was still up to the bank to make its own appraisel. NY developers agree with trump and trump is being wrongly persecuted by corrupt da and judge.
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Yes, the bank is to do its own appraisal but the entire basis of that appraisal Trump's team handed the banks was based on fraud.

If Trump had shopped for someone who would give him an outsized appraisal, he'd have culpable deniability..
 
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tvolsfan said:
Lol

I guess this is your way of saying you think Biden has immunity to do whatever he feels is necessary to “secure” the election. Because there is no other way to look at it.
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There is proof, evidence, bank statments, witnesses,etc that Biden did commit criminal acts, no evidence trump did.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Yes, the bank is to do its own appraisal but the entire basis of that appraisal Trump's team handed the banks was based on fraud.
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it was based on their own estimates of what they tho't the property was worth....no crime in that. It was the judge who obviously undervalued the property to bring the indictment. Many property developers have come forward and said the property is worth closer to what trump's accoutants esitmated than the ridiculous 18 million,
 
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Hiring someone who has reputation for giving higher market appraisals - Par for the course and Legal

Using high end of ranges - Par for the course and legal

Creating projected income statements based on best case scenario - Par for the course and legal

Taking existing the past 3 years worth of actual financial statements and adjusting the numbers - Fraud
 
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jmacvols1 said:
it was based on their own estimates of what they tho't the property was worth....no crime in that. It was the judge who obviously undervalued the property to bring the indictment. Many property developers have come forward and said the property is worth closer to what trump's accoutants esitmated than the ridiculous 18 million,
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Mar A Lago had nothing to do with the fine and had really nothing to do with 63(12)....

The 18 million was low but the fact that stayed in the record was as much on the poor quality of Trump's expert they tried to get qualified.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Hiring someone who has reputation for giving higher market appraisals - Par for the course and Legal

Using high end of ranges - Par for the course and legal

Creating projected income statements based on best case scenario - Par for the course and legal

Taking existing the past 3 years worth of actual financial statements and adjusting the numbers - Fraud
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He is guilty as all living hell.
 
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