The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

Trump DOESN'T HAVE bond money, begs court for discount​



I’m not sure this proves he’s broke. He might be. But it’s also just smart to plead for a discount. Or try to get an interest free extension by stating you need time to liquidate funds.

I got a ticket the other day for running a stop sign. It’s $130. Do I have $130?? Yep! Am I gonna plead with the judge to reduce the fine? Yep!

(Because everyone else is bragging about their net worth on this site today. I wanted y’all all to know I have $130. Baller. Baller!)
 
No, you will take whatever the DNC gives you.
So here's the thing, Hogg... People can actually favor policies and candidates that are centrist. I've voted for both GOP and DEM prez candidates in the past. I'm hopeful that we'll have a moderate third party candidate emerge for this Fall other than Biden or Trump. Both of these guys are too old to serve, and neither one is the long term solution to our country's challenges.

Politics has become so divisive at this point . We need someone who can reach across the aisle and build fences, not Trump who only aims to disrupt and destroy nor Biden who is clearly fighting to simply maintain his cognitive ability.
 
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So here's the thing, Hogg... People can actually favor policies and candidates that are centrist. I've voted for both GOP and DEM prez candidates in the past. I'm hopeful that we'll have a moderate third party candidate emerge for this Fall other than Biden or Trump. Both of these guys are too old to serve, and neither one is the long term solution to our country's challenges.

Politics has become so divisive at this point . We need someone who can reach across the aisle and build fences, not Trump who only aims to disrupt and destroy nor Biden who is clearly fighting to simply maintain his cognitive ability.
Who do you suggest?
 
So here's the thing, Hogg... People can actually favor policies and candidates that are centrist. I've voted for both GOP and DEM prez candidates in the past. I'm hopeful that we'll have a moderate third party candidate emerge for this Fall other than Biden or Trump. Both of these guys are too old to serve, and neither one is the long term solution to our country's challenges.

Politics has become so divisive at this point . We need someone who can reach across the aisle and build fences, not Trump who only aims to disrupt and destroy nor Biden who is clearly fighting to simply maintain his cognitive ability.

Actually Monty here is the real thing, if you take your blinders off you’d see that Trump was the most centrist POTUS as for policies and agenda that we’ve had in decades. If what you say is true about wanting a centrist candidate you should be a supporter.
 
Actually Monty here is the real thing, if you take your blinders off you’d see that Trump was the most centrist POTUS as for policies and agenda that we’ve had in decades. If what you say is true about wanting a centrist candidate you should be a supporter.
Yes....most of his policy positions are center....but trumper supporters are the cult of personality...
 
Actually Monty here is the real thing, if you take your blinders off you’d see that Trump was the most centrist POTUS as for policies and agenda that we’ve had in decades. If what you say is true about wanting a centrist candidate you should be a supporter.
Media has killed individual thought. Trump actually did pretty good. But the media attacked and the sheep followed. The sheep don’t even know they are sheep.
 
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Media has killed individual thought. Trump actually did pretty good. But the media attacked and the sheep followed. The sheep don’t even know they are sheep.

Trump didn’t “actually do good” he was completely unprepared for the job and hired absolutely the wrong people to push his agenda. It was his agenda that was centrist.
 
I’m not sure this proves he’s broke. He might be. But it’s also just smart to plead for a discount. Or try to get an interest free extension by stating you need time to liquidate funds.

I got a ticket the other day for running a stop sign. It’s $130. Do I have $130?? Yep! Am I gonna plead with the judge to reduce the fine? Yep!

(Because everyone else is bragging about their net worth on this site today. I wanted y’all all to know I have $130. Baller. Baller!)
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Trump didn’t “actually do good” he was completely unprepared for the job and hired absolutely the wrong people to push his agenda. It was his agenda that was centrist.
I was speaking of: border security, no wars, minority unemployment, energy independence, etc.

But doing good means different things to different people. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
 
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Yea that's all nonsense and just personal attacks. Now, what I will say, is you poo pooing polling and approval ratings is that same crap Trumpers did 4 years ago. Earlier today you remarked you weren't worried about Trump winning. You sound as dumb as Trumpers did 4 years ago. You should be worriedd.
I hear what you're saying, but my skepticism (of just a few polls) derives from recent history. There is no question that there are some polls which skew heavily in the favor of Republicans. In the 2022 mid-terms, Fox News made the mistake of only trusting polls which confirmed what they wanted to believe, They wound up with egg on their collective face as a result.





I'm not saying all polls are meaningless. I'm saying that a few definitely are, and they tend to favor Republicans. Those Harris polls and Rasmussen really skew the averages.
 
I was speaking of: border security, no wars, minority unemployment, energy independence, etc.

But doing good means different things to different people. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

If he would have hired the right people and if he wasn’t fought tooth and nail by his and the opposition party I think his presidency would have been one of the top 10-15.
 
I was speaking of: border security, no wars, minority unemployment, energy independence, etc.

But doing good means different things to different people. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

The gangster is deeply, deeply corrupt and a malignant, sinister liar. We can't have anybody of such incalcuably low character in the White House. Only somebody mentally ill would get impeached twice, try to subvert an election and incite an attack on the U.S. Capitol--and prove generally incompetent--and then decide to run again. Mentally ill. It's all a personal power trip with the guy. And people who still support him are mentally ill and people of low character. The man does not respect U.S. laws, other people, has been conning and bullying people all his lilfe, and is a complete and utter dick of a human being--AND he wants to be the bitch of our major adversary. Many of the people in his administration were hacks--Pompeo was an embarrassing joke as head of the CIA and then State Department, a fat moron who had no idea what he was doing. The guy couldn't even dress properly. Biden has intelligent people and pros. Trump--hacks and crackpots.

If the Dems are smart, they'll roll out an TV ad in the fall with all the former gangster administration people talking about how unfit he is for public office--it's a very long list. There are no "right people" who want to work for the gangster except for true ideologial extremists.
 
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If he would have hired the right people and if he wasn’t fought tooth and nail by his and the opposition party I think his presidency would have been one of the top 10-15.
Although, I think that is ridiculous, I won't waste time arguing over it ....

.... other than to say that the manner in which Donald Trump handled losing the 2020 Presidential Election, from the countless lies and frivolous law suits, to the fake elector scheme and publicly pressuring Pence to not include electoral votes during certification from hand-picked states they had lost, and then ultimately culminating with the riot at the Capitol on January 6, 2021 following his "Stop the Steal" rally, will be a lasting part of his legacy .... and it's a shameful stain. He has only himself to blame for that.

Donald Trump loves to play the role of a victim, and his following loves to perceive him as a martyr .... but he is not a victim. Trump is an egomaniac, and a very dishonest person. He has made it impossible to disregard those traits.
 
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Although, I think that is ridiculous, I won't waste time arguing over it ....

.... other than to say that the manner in which Donald Trump handled losing the 2020 Presidential Election, from the countless lies and frivolous law suits, to the fake elector scheme and publicly pressuring Pence to not include electoral votes during certification from hand-picked states they had lost, and then ultimately culminating with the riot at the Capitol on January 6, 2021 following his "Stop the Steal" rally, will be a lasting part of his legacy .... and it's a shameful stain. He has only himself to blame for that.

Donald Trump loves to play the role of a victim, and his following loves to perceive him as a martyr .... but he is not a victim. Trump is an egomaniac, and a very dishonest person. He has made it impossible to disregard those traits.

You are just as blind to reality as Monty is. The difference between you two is that you’re absolutely obsessed and devoted to your cult.
 
You are just as blind to reality as Monty is. The difference between you two is that you’re absolutely obsessed and devoted to your cult.
You are just projecting, what you know to be true of yourself .... but can't afford to admit. You are in a Cult of Personality, which revolves around an unconditional devotion to an egomaniac who only cares about himself - Donald Trump.

It's the "No puppet ... no Puppet ... You're the puppet." defense that Trump uses. The Cult of Trump even copies his childish debating skills. Can human beings get any more pathetic and pitiful than the Trump Cult? I don't think so. The Republican Party echo chamber on here proves it every day.
 
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You are just projecting, what you know to be true of yourself .... but can't afford to admit. You are in a Cult of Personality, which revolves around an unconditional devotion to an egomaniac who only cares about himself - Donald Trump.

It's the "No puppet ... no Puppet ... You're the puppet." defense that Trump uses. The Cult of Trump even copies his childish debating skills. Can human beings get any more pathetic and pitiful than the Trump Cult? I don't think so. The Republican Party echo chamber on here proves it every day.

Ok, what policy or legislation did Trump push that was right wing?

Let’s just debate this with actual facts, good with that?
 
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Donald Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man.

Donald Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man.

Donald Trump is a stupid man's idea of a smart man.

The Cult of Trump certainly does believe that he is strong, rich and smart. Fools.
 
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Donald Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man.

Donald Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man.

Donald Trump is a stupid man's idea of a smart man.

The Cult of Trump certainly does believe that he is strong, rich and smart. Fools.

I’m guessing that this is a no to discussion on actual policy?
 
Ok, what policy or legislation did Trump push that was right wing?

Let’s just debate this with actual facts, good with that?
One of the most important things a President does is nominate Supreme Court Justices. Although, he denied it at the time, there clearly was a litmus test on abortion .... and the Dobbs ruling should be placed squarely in the lap of Trump as a result of his nominations of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney-Barrett. Overturning Roe v Wade is as right wing as it gets.
 
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