The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

No, I am not wrong because I was alive in 2020 and read many public articles/discussions about the alternate elector legal theory. Yes, the goal was to challenge and then LEGALLY (this word is somehow always left out, wonder why?) overturn the Election due to voter fraud.

There is no way for "fake" or alternate electors to secretly become actual electors.

Again, no one on this board has been able to explain how this is either fraud or illegal.

Take your L and move on, dude.

You'd be frothing at the mouth is a dem tried to trot out fake electors to subvert the will of an electorate. That you can't understand or otherwise reconcile this demonstrates just how brainwashed you are. Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
Take DOT for instance. Ol' Gay Pete only wants non heterosexual White males as new employees in air traffic control because, as we all know, what makes a person good a job isn't their mental ability its their sexual preference, sex, and racial/ethnic background.


I had not heard anything about this but it seemed like an odd claim to make since I am unaware of any affirmative action-esque government program to make homosexuality preferred for any position, much less air traffic controllers. And of course I'd agree with you that sexual preference, in any direction, is not a valid indicator that a person would be a good air traffic controller.

So I did some basic searching and could find nothing to support your claim. Not even a hint of it.

Can you post a link or at least explain the basis for your claim that there is any sort of effort to hire homosexuals, in particular, for these jobs? You have to admit, it sounds a bit like crazy Trump train MAGA loon speak.
 
Appraisers come to differing amounts on the same property, all the time. That is ridiculous. Also, why didnt the State provide an "expert"?

This isn't about appraisers coming up with different values. This is about basic principles in presenting evidence and qualifying experts. Nobody in their right mind believes MAL is worth only $20M. The judge, in calculating his penalties, didn't impose anything on MAL for unwarranted gains.

A REALTOR who had never been qualified as an expert before saying "I pulled the number from my head and I can't tell you how I got that number". In every state, an expert must state and show some type of objective metric to have their testimony be admissible as expert testimony.

MAL is far more valuable as a private residence than as a social club. The State's testimony went back to the fact to permanent deed restrictions that limited it to being a social club. Once they did that, Trump's side needed to present an expert that showed its value as a social club was something in the ballpark of what they put on the SFCs. What they ended up presenting was a REALTOR who could not provide admissible expert testimony...

Trump's CFO and Controller both testified they knew MAL couldn't be valued as a "hypothetical" private residence and be in compliance with the covenants that required GAAP based SFCs.
 
I think you need to put your theory into practice. Put in a call to your doctor, go ahead and forge yourself a prescription, and take that meth that’s been rotting your brain down to your local police station. Tell them that you have an alternate prescription and hot rail a big rock right in the lobby.

Let us know how it plays out.

Terrible analogy, gaslighter.
 
lol.....Schooled?

I just proved you to be 100% incorrect.

90% of the posters in the PF see that, the other 10% are simply to dumb to be concerned with.

No, you didn't. Your reply has nothing to do with the alternate electors.
 
By knowingly and admittedly signing a false document.

There you go!!!!!

Now that wasn't so hard.

It wasn't a false document. Had Pence kicked it back to the State or had one of the ongoing lawsuits been successful, those "fake electors" would then become the actual electors.

You tell me, what would have happened if the "fake electors" didn't get their paperwork in by the lawful deadline and courts later ruled that Trump actually won said State....would the Left then allow electors who didn't submit paperwork by the lawfully correct date be allowed to be electors? OR COURSE THE EFF NOT!!

There was nothing false or fraudulent here. Everything was done out in the open. Everyone knew who the real and alternate electors were. Everyone knew WHY there were alternate electors. So, where is the fraud?
 
This isn't about appraisers coming up with different values. This is about basic principles in presenting evidence and qualifying experts. Nobody in their right mind believes MAL is worth only $20M. The judge, in calculating his penalties, didn't impose anything on MAL for unwarranted gains.

A REALTOR who had never been qualified as an expert before saying "I pulled the number from my head and I can't tell you how I got that number". In every state, an expert must state and show some type of objective metric to have their testimony be admissible as expert testimony.

MAL is far more valuable as a private residence than as a social club. The State's testimony went back to the fact to permanent deed restrictions that limited it to being a social club. Once they did that, Trump's side needed to present an expert that showed its value as a social club was something in the ballpark of what they put on the SFCs. What they ended up presenting was a REALTOR who could not provide admissible expert testimony...

Trump's CFO and Controller both testified they knew MAL couldn't be valued as a "hypothetical" private residence and be in compliance with the covenants that required GAAP based SFCs.

How can there be an objective metric and appraisers come to quite different conclusions on a property's value?
 
It had everything to do with the fake electors.

Maybe you need a nap.

Luther, you obviously have no eff'ing clue what you are talking about. Go back and read articles from that time in 2020 and you will see plenty of legal folks discussing the alternate elector theory.
 
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The electors themselves have admitted to it. You were given a link.

Of course they did, the settlement was better than alternative. Also, the 2 lawyers involved, as part of the settlement, didn't admit to any wrongdoing or liability.
 
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The electors themselves have admitted to it. You were given a link.

Note the date of the article, 12/14/20. Again, this was being openly discussed at the time. This was a possible legal theory being put forth by the Trump campaign. This wasn't being done in secret. Everyone knew who the actual electors were and everyone knew who the alternate electors were.

Stephen Miller: ‘Alternate’ electors will keep Trump election challenge alive

Miller indicated that Trump supporters will act as “alternates” in a handful of contested states, including Georgia, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, to submit their own, unofficial results. Should the Trump campaign succeed in overturning the outcome in any of those states, Miller said, the alternate electors could then be recognized by Congress.
 
Luther, were you calling for these people to be prosecuted in 2016?

Faithless electors in the 2016 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1]
 
Is this new to 2023? Haven't all decisions to prosecute been up to a DA's discretion? And aren't judgments by definition, selected by the judge?

Sounds like you don't like certain people being held accountable because who they are. Instead of bellyaching about your guy being invited to the party, why not stand up for the position that all of these criminal a-holes should be held to the same standard.
I'm down for that...but I believe innocent till proven guilty in a court of law....

So then your ok with DA and judges being harsher on Blacks due to their biases???
 
Note the date of the article, 12/14/20. Again, this was being openly discussed at the time. This was a possible legal theory being put forth by the Trump campaign. This wasn't being done in secret. Everyone knew who the actual electors were and everyone knew who the alternate electors were.

Stephen Miller: ‘Alternate’ electors will keep Trump election challenge alive
Oh, you got me, I guess I’ll have to accept that explanation and just wait until January 6, 2021, to see whether the Trump campaign succeeds in overturning the election and, if not, whether they try to go forward with the plan anyways.

I’ll mark it on my calendar.
 
Oh, you got me, I guess I’ll have to accept that explanation and just wait until January 6, 2021, to see whether the Trump campaign succeeds in overturning the election and, if not, whether they try to go forward with the plan anyways.

I’ll mark it on my calendar.

You won't accept it, you will keep up your gaslighting routine.
 
Even a lot of the major Independent candidates seem to be out there for me right now. Most are just one issue focused and often more radical about that issue than the mainstream candidates.

Kennedy might be the most interesting one that we have had since Ross Perot.
Which is probably why he gets no air time.
 
Luther, you obviously have no eff'ing clue what you are talking about. Go back and read articles from that time in 2020 and you will see plenty of legal folks discussing the alternate elector theory.
lol.....Trump's legal team?
I'll pass
 
Why would someone so innocent try to exhaust any and every executive immunity avenue, exerting 110% to delay the trials? It's damn hilarious this guy might be President again. If you're not too thin skinned about it and have a grip on reality, it could be entertaining if he is reelected. Just because of the meltdown from his base when he actually governs again
What would the left be doing if Biden were persecuted to this degree? Endless bogus indictments over an unproven 'insurrection'... An egregious 'fine' for normal business conduct. Removal from a ballot because the da doesn't like him... You'd be losing your ****ing mind
 
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What would the left be doing if Biden were persecuted to this degree? Endless bogus indictments over an unproven 'insurrection'... A heinous 'fone' for normal business conduct. Removal from a ballot because the da doesn't like him... You'd be losing your ****ing mind
Yeah everybody would be big mad if they tried a bogus impeachment of Biden…
 
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