The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Trump got about as good of a jury as he's going to get in Manhattan

He got a majority male, majority professional jury. He got a jury that is more Caucasian than the demographics suggest and much older.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Mostly speaking generally. The law has developed in a way that allows a lot of unfairness to be tolerated under the pretext of not wanting to inhibit judicial or prosecutorial discretion.

The specific example was that not disqualifying Biden campaign volunteers for cause. It is almost certainly not mandatory, without more; but it seems like a reasonable precaution if we’re seeking a fair trial rather than just a result that won’t get overturned.
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Agree with a lot of this, the legal system is broken. I also find it frustrating to see entire laws based around bad Supreme Coyrt rulings (typically from 1940s or 1950s) that totally fly in the face of what the Founders wanted and show a clear lack of understanding of history or the writings/ideas behind the language of the Constitution.

You want to see our court system at is worse? Read Wicker vs. Filburn from 1946.
 
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If it wasn't rigged, Trump would not have that argument or voice.
Change of Venue would/could just rigged in another direction.
Fair Trial, no in any Venue.
Facts, unusual as they seem, petty, don't really matter to some.
Jury selection and opinions are just the SideShow.
The trial is going to happen and Trump will use it at his benefit. Win or lose.
In fact, it is working well in the media. Cut through all the outside mess and it is what it is. A Clown show on both parts. Somebody will lose, Somebody will win and whoever loses will have a stupid misdirected voice.
Focus on the facts, there are enough idiotic voices on both sides that want voters to believe in the lies both sides are telling.
The saga continues.
 
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Gandalf said:
There is no question that the trial will be rigged at every step. The outcome is certain. The only question is HOW rigged they can make it.
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If you don't like it, the solution is simple: don't cheat on your wife with a porn start and cook the books to cover it up. Problem solved.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Getting a fair and impartial jury for any case around Trump is going to be impossible.
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Yeah, Trump won't get a fully impartial jury anywhere in the country (it goes both ways).

Fact is, many people of color don't get fully impartial juries either.

Ultimately though, this will still be decided on the merits of the case. Trump just has a little less room for error than if this was held in another jurisdiction.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
If it wasn't rigged, Trump would not have that argument or voice.
Change of Venue would/could just rigged in another direction.
Fair Trial, no in any Venue.
Facts, unusual as they seem, petty, don't really matter to some.
Jury selection and opinions are just the SideShow.
The trial is going to happen and Trump will use it at his benefit. Win or lose.
In fact, it is working well in the media. Cut through all the outside mess and it is what it is. A Clown show on both parts. Somebody will lose, Somebody will win and whoever loses will have a stupid misdirected voice.
Focus on the facts, there are enough idiotic voices on both sides that want voters to believe in the lies both sides are telling.
The saga continues.
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Careful, you may get crotch splinters riding that fence Mr. Uniparty.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Careful, you may get crotch splinters riding that fence Mr. Uniparty.
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considering you only have three choices --- Liberal Moderate or Half baked Trump/Republican, it's not a great place to be but beats the extremes everytime. Be careful of the kool aid both parties are selling.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
considering you only have three choices --- Liberal Moderate or Half baked Trump/Republican, it's not a great place to be but beats the extremes everytime. Be careful of the kool aid both parties are selling.
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Three choices. Right, Wrong, and indecisive. The last one is the worst due to the vacillating back and forth with no foundation.
 
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TN Ribs said:
If you don't like it, the solution is simple: don't cheat on your wife with a porn start and cook the books to cover it up. Problem solved.
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Or be a Democrat.

Paula Jones and her $850,000 hush money payout says hi. But I guess THAT wasn't a crime.


If you Socialists didn't have double standards, you wouldn't have any standards at all.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Yeah, Trump won't get a fully impartial jury anywhere in the country (it goes both ways).

Fact is, many people of color don't get fully impartial juries either.

Ultimately though, this will still be decided on the merits of the case. Trump just has a little less room for error than if this was held in another jurisdiction.
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Trump would have to go to Mongolia or some remote island in the Pacific to get an impartial jury.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Or be a Democrat.

Paula Jones and her $850,000 hush money payout says hi. But I guess THAT wasn't a crime.


If you Socialists didn't have double standards, you wouldn't have any standards at all.
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That’s some top shelf whining. Stop being a pansy and blaming everyone but the person who actually deserves the blame for their actions. Grow a spine.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Yeah, Trump won't get a fully impartial jury anywhere in the country (it goes both ways).

Fact is, many people of color don't get fully impartial juries either.

Ultimately though, this will still be decided on the merits of the case. Trump just has a little less room for error than if this was held in another jurisdiction.
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Agree but it should be non-jury IMO. I think that Trump camp is wanting a hung jury. There probably needs to be more rules around how to handle high profile cases.
 
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