The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[hUTch2002]

Which brings up an interesting question.

This forum has 100s of individual posters (2023-4) yet I rarely see racist comments. This tells me several things.
1) They are scared to death of being found out so they noose their racism
2) They are no racists, it's in my imagination
3) They know that overt, in-your-face racist posts will guarantee them a ban

Question? Is there still, after all these years, from the assassination of Dr. King to date, a white undercurrent of racists and racism?

Answer? You bet you a**

You’re catching turbo faster than I thought. I guess I’ll say congrats?

 

[Gandalf]

I don’t think anybody wringing their hands about this can claim to be semi-serious.

* He wasn’t there. It’s not like his itinerary is a big secret. He was in Dallas on 8/7 and was deposed in New York on 8/10 for one of his other cases, I think it was the half-billion dollar judgment case, but it might have been the one where he raped the woman.
* Just think about the fact that this Pearl clutching turns, in part, on the idea that law enforcement should serve a search warrant without being armed. Cops can be thugs (see Scotty Scheffler story) but that’s just insane.
* Any application of rational thought would tell you the use of force language is boilerplate, for the same reason: serving search warrants is dangerous work. (The FBI has since put out a statement that this is the case).
* The search was clearly a last or near-last resort (read the efforts they went to in the indictment to recover the documents).
* It was a search approved by a federal magistrate.
* The search discovered evidence of a crime.
* The evidence produced an indictment.

You guys want to continue to dig through Julie Karen’s ******** to try to find undigested kernels of sanity, knock yourselves out. I would have cut her off after she made a big deal out of Evan Corcoran emailing prosecutors to introduce himself as evidence that Trump had cooperated without mention that a federal judge had ordered Corcoran to testify before a grand jury because trump had used him to lie to federal law enforcement and thwart less invasive measures to recover the documents, but I accept that dignity and integrity are less important to some people than they are to me, a lawyer.

Dont be silly. The reason the FBI went in heavy is simple. They hoped to provoke an armed confrontation for the media look it would provide and hopefully they could then upgrade the charges or make them seem more weighty at least. "Shootout at Maralago as Feds raid Trump's compound"

Did they think it would lead to assassinating Trump? heck no, agreed anyone thinking that is being foolish.

They had already planned this way ahead of time - in fact, it would seem that they even coordinated with the GSA to pack and deliver the documents they "found". So there was no surprise here at all. Did they have to go in a raid? no of course not but they wanted the optics. Every progressives wet dream is to see Trump frog marched in handcuffs. They also know that could potentially hurt him with some voters. That was the whole goal.

 

[CobbVol]

Dont be silly. The reason the FBI went in heavy is simple. They hoped to provoke an armed confrontation for the media look it would provide and hopefully they could then upgrade the charges or make them seem more weighty at least. "Shootout at Maralago as Feds raid Trump's compound"

Did they think it would lead to assassinating Trump? heck no, agreed anyone thinking that is being foolish.

They had already planned this way ahead of time - in fact, it would seem that they even coordinated with the GSA to pack and deliver the documents they "found". So there was no surprise here at all. Did they have to go in a raid? no of course not but they wanted the optics. Every progressives wet dream is to see Trump frog marched in handcuffs. They also know that could potentially hurt him with some voters. That was the whole goal.

Be careful as he is a lawyer.

 

[Gandalf]

Be careful as he is a lawyer.

LOL

 

[turbovol]

Dont be silly. The reason the FBI went in heavy is simple. They hoped to provoke an armed confrontation for the media look it would provide and hopefully they could then upgrade the charges or make them seem more weighty at least. "Shootout at Maralago as Feds raid Trump's compound"

Did they think it would lead to assassinating Trump? heck no, agreed anyone thinking that is being foolish.

They had already planned this way ahead of time - in fact, it would seem that they even coordinated with the GSA to pack and deliver the documents they "found". So there was no surprise here at all. Did they have to go in a raid? no of course not but they wanted the optics. Every progressives wet dream is to see Trump frog marched in handcuffs. They also know that could potentially hurt him with some voters. That was the whole goal.

Total nonsense, as usual. They didn't have to go in a raid? Really? How were they supposed to obtain the documents. Ask the gangster politely again? You're suggesting that they didn't find the documents? Really? Interesting "logic," given that the documents were in the gangster's house.

 

[CobbVol]

Jack Smith is still an employee of the DOJ and not special counsel. Hopefully on 6/22 this will be confirmed.

From the article:

“Not clothed in the authority of the federal government, Smith is a modern example of the naked emperor,” the Dec. 20 amicus brief argues. “Improperly appointed, he has no more authority to represent the United States in this court than Bryce Harper, Taylor Swift or Jeff Bezos.”

The brief argues that Attorney General Merrick Garland “exceeded his statutory and constitutional authority” when he appointed Smith in November 2022. Because Smith’s appointment was unconstitutional, “every action that he has taken since his appointment is now null and void,” Calabresi argued at the Volokh Conspiracy.

Was Jack Smith's appointment unconstitutional? He has no more authority than Taylor Swift, amicus brief argues

Special counsel Jack Smith’s appointment was unconstitutional, leaving him powerless to obtain a quick U.S. Supreme Court decision on immunity claims by former President Donald Trump, according to an amicus brief signed by former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese and two law professors.

www.abajournal.com

 

[VolTull]

Dont be silly. The reason the FBI went in heavy is simple. They hoped to provoke an armed confrontation for the media look it would provide and hopefully they could then upgrade the charges or make them seem more weighty at least. "Shootout at Maralago as Feds raid Trump's compound"

I see where you're going. Mar-a-Lego is another Waco. Easy to see.

Did they think it would lead to assassinating Trump? heck no, agreed anyone thinking that is being foolish.

Just foolish, You are a kind sir, I call them completely delusional. You be you.

They had already planned this way ahead of time - in fact, it would seem that they even coordinated with the GSA to pack and deliver the documents they "found". So there was no surprise here at all. Did they have to go in a raid? no of course not but they wanted the optics. Every progressives wet dream is to see Trump frog marched in handcuffs. They also know that could potentially hurt him with some voters. That was the whole goal.

I thought the goal was to create military-style chaos? Shoot 'em up at the Mar-o-Lego corral.

And here I thought you smoked tobacco in that pipe of your, Gandy.

 

[Sudden Impact]

I don’t think anybody wringing their hands about this can claim to be semi-serious.

* He wasn’t there. It’s not like his itinerary is a big secret. He was in Dallas on 8/7 and was deposed in New York on 8/10 for one of his other cases, I think it was the half-billion dollar judgment case, but it might have been the one where he raped the woman.
* Just think about the fact that this Pearl clutching turns, in part, on the idea that law enforcement should serve a search warrant without being armed. Cops can be thugs (see Scotty Scheffler story) but that’s just insane.
* Any application of rational thought would tell you the use of force language is boilerplate, for the same reason: serving search warrants is dangerous work. (The FBI has since put out a statement that this is the case).
* The search was clearly a last or near-last resort (read the efforts they went to in the indictment to recover the documents).
* It was a search approved by a federal magistrate.
* The search discovered evidence of a crime.
* The evidence produced an indictment.

You guys want to continue to dig through Julie Karen’s ******** to try to find undigested kernels of sanity, knock yourselves out. I would have cut her off after she made a big deal out of Evan Corcoran emailing prosecutors to introduce himself as evidence that Trump had cooperated without mention that a federal judge had ordered Corcoran to testify before a grand jury because trump had used him to lie to federal law enforcement and thwart less invasive measures to recover the documents, but I accept that dignity and integrity are less important to some people than they are to me, a lawyer.

Add to this

Every bit of this event was filmed. Nothing was going to happen except for the collection of evidence. Body Cameras, and recorders filmed every bit of this to ensure the public knew. Don't think the staff did not know they were coming, if they did, which they did. Some of the documents would never been moved to NJ. The recording of the raid had to happen to prevent violence, stupidity and to record every bit of the actions taken in a former President's residence.

How many doors were knocked in during this process? (0) ZERO. When told by some it Sounds like the Wild Wild West of which some would like for the public to believe. These officers are Professionals and know there boundaries they are not your local run of the mill local law enforcement.
The most violent part of this raid rests on the team going through the residence boxes, drawers and they even managed to miss the hidden room.
Trump's version was what you would expect, I was raped sorta speak. Some of Fox Staff watch too much TV.

Knock on door --- Tac Team, "we have a search warrant, Other side of door, opened it. "Can I see it" TAC TM "Yes" Person in house "OK". Drama and BS claimed to stir the masses. Some need to live in Reality.

Trump took documents, refused to return them, moved some to NJ, tried to destroy video evidence, had documents in possession, knew he had them and it is time to let the courts decide if he has Immunity, if he can declassify them by thinking about them, if the PRA applies or he committed a serious crime. Time to "giddy up" and figure it out and the best place to do it is to put it into the court system to decide. Too many smoke screens out there to kept the simple minded groups. confused.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Dont be silly. The reason the FBI went in heavy is simple. They hoped to provoke an armed confrontation for the media look it would provide and hopefully they could then upgrade the charges or make them seem more weighty at least. "Shootout at Maralago as Feds raid Trump's compound"

Did they think it would lead to assassinating Trump? heck no, agreed anyone thinking that is being foolish.

They had already planned this way ahead of time - in fact, it would seem that they even coordinated with the GSA to pack and deliver the documents they "found". So there was no surprise here at all. Did they have to go in a raid? no of course not but they wanted the optics. Every progressives wet dream is to see Trump frog marched in handcuffs. They also know that could potentially hurt him with some voters. That was the whole goal.

rubbish. wishful thinking.

 

[lawgator1]

Dont be silly. The reason the FBI went in heavy is simple. They hoped to provoke an armed confrontation for the media look it would provide and hopefully they could then upgrade the charges or make them seem more weighty at least. "Shootout at Maralago as Feds raid Trump's compound"

Did they think it would lead to assassinating Trump? heck no, agreed anyone thinking that is being foolish.

They had already planned this way ahead of time - in fact, it would seem that they even coordinated with the GSA to pack and deliver the documents they "found". So there was no surprise here at all. Did they have to go in a raid? no of course not but they wanted the optics. Every progressives wet dream is to see Trump frog marched in handcuffs. They also know that could potentially hurt him with some voters. That was the whole goal.

Sadly, there are people who believe this crap that are allowed to vote. Some of them even to drive.

More than a few --which is shocking -- may even have kids.

Sad.

 

[Orangeburst]

Sadly, there are people who believe this crap that are allowed to vote. Some of them even to drive.

More than a few --which is shocking -- may even have kids.

Sad.

You believed a Pee Tape man.

 

[StarRaider]

You believe a Pee Tape man.

fixy.... got to keep hope alive 'burst!

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Be careful as he is a lawyer.

A clown dressed up like a lawyer on here.

 

[turbovol]

You believed a Pee Tape man.

Man up, Earl, and acknowledge that the gangster has his head up Putin's a$$. MAGA are an embarrassment to this country. They could have thrown their support to any of dozens of GOP candidates, but instead rallied again behind a completely corrupt, disgusting, treasonous lowlife.

 

[Orangeburst]

Man up, Earl, and acknowledge that the gangster has his head up Putin's a$$. MAGA are an embarrassment to this country. They could have thrown their support to any of dozens of GOP candidates, but instead rallied again behind a completely corrupt, disgusting, treasonous lowlife.

Is the Pee Tape real? Simple binary question.

 

[GordonC]

Man up, Earl, and acknowledge that the gangster has his head up Putin's a$$. MAGA are an embarrassment to this country. They could have thrown their support to any of dozens of GOP candidates, but instead rallied again behind a completely corrupt, disgusting, treasonous lowlife.

and calling people Earl, Bozo, gangster, libtards, Nazis, MAGA (along with continuums, of course) are embarrassing for the human race

 

[VolTull]

Tick-tock...time is running short!

Will the Jury Convict Trump? Here Are the Clues. Judgment day approaches.

 

[MercyPercy]

No FBI agent or SS agent would work if they could not work under both agencies rules of use of force. Its quite literally for their protection. Maybe if trump had sent the shat when asked we could have avoided this. I also fully suspect the FBI did its raid knowing full well Trump was not arround. Also, we have no clue if the higher ups at the FBi and SS talked.

I find highly improbable that they did not know Trump was not there at the time.

 

[MercyPercy]

Dont be silly. The reason the FBI went in heavy is simple. They hoped to provoke an armed confrontation for the media look it would provide and hopefully they could then upgrade the charges or make them seem more weighty at least. "Shootout at Maralago as Feds raid Trump's compound"

Did they think it would lead to assassinating Trump? heck no, agreed anyone thinking that is being foolish.

They had already planned this way ahead of time - in fact, it would seem that they even coordinated with the GSA to pack and deliver the documents they "found". So there was no surprise here at all. Did they have to go in a raid? no of course not but they wanted the optics. Every progressives wet dream is to see Trump frog marched in handcuffs. They also know that could potentially hurt him with some voters. That was the whole goal.

This is truly inspired fan fiction.

 

[VolTull]

and calling people Earl, Bozo, gangster, libtards, Nazis, MAGA (along with continuums, of course) are embarrassing for the human race

Turbo reps the entire, complete human race to you? You realize you're all alone with this POV, see how many have come to agree with you?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Turbo reps the entire, complete human race to you? You realize you're all alone with this POV, see how many have come to agree with you?

I'm certain there are posters who count "likes" to their posts. There is a fine line between not giving a damn if that happens and needing the affirmation of it.

 

[lawgator1]

You believed a Pee Tape man.

Still do.

 

[VolTull]

I'm certain there are posters who count "likes" to their posts. There is a fine line between not giving a damn if that happens and needing the affirmation of it.

Of course, there is a fine line between psychosis and normalcy.

 

[C-south]

Man up, Earl, and acknowledge that the gangster has his head up Putin's a$$. MAGA are an embarrassment to this country. They could have thrown their support to any of dozens of GOP candidates, but instead rallied again behind a completely corrupt, disgusting, treasonous lowlife.

People like you are exactly why people vote for him. The triggering effect alone on the weak and feckless leftoids is enough. Anything else is a bonus.

 

[turbovol]

People like you are exactly why people vote for him. The triggering effect alone on the weak and feckless leftoids is enough. Anything else is a bonus.

You're saying what's long been obvious: We MAGA are fine being stupid and unAmerican if it means countering progressives. What you don't get, because MAGA, is that for Democrats these elections are as much or more about person than policy. Trump is a sick, dangerous man. Did you guys catch the clip from a day or two ago: He said that China's Xi, Kim Jong Un and Putin "where on the top of their game." What kind of individual, what kind of American, makes a comment like that? It's treasonous and UnAmerican. He's a terrible, dangerous, mentally ill human being.