The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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volfanhill said:
Election will be over well before he's sentenced
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I did read where sentencing “could” take place in two to eight weeks from conviction. I’m not sure the powers that be wouldn’t take advantage of that. I’ve seen where others have said it wouldn’t be before the election. What’s the deciding factor there?
 
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Vol737 said:
I don’t know. That could go either way. I do think the ones that want to get rid of him believe that having him sentenced and in jail would prevent his election.
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Well it wouldn’t prevent him outright from being elected.

But Hill is right that sentencing won’t be until well after the election.
 
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Vol737 said:
I did read where sentencing “could” take place in two to eight weeks from conviction. I’m not sure the powers that be wouldn’t take advantage of that. I’ve seen where others have said it wouldn’t be before the election. What’s the deciding factor there?
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Appeals
 
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85SugarVol said:
Appeals
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Understand that, presumably. Is it a given, though, an appellate court would even find grounds for an appeal and hear it? Don’t we have to know that first? Which appellate court would make that decision? In other words, is it a federal appeals court in the same district as where Trump was tried? How does this normally go? @RockyTop85, would be interested in your insight here. I’m just of the mindset that nothing is a given and anything is possible in all of this.
 
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Vol737 said:
Understand that, presumably. Is it a given, though, an appellate court would even find grounds for an appeal and hear it? Don’t we have to know that first? Which appellate court would make that decision? In other words, is it a federal appeals court in the same district as where Trump was tried? How does this normally go? @RockyTop85, would be interested in your insight here. I’m just of the mindset that nothing is a given and anything is possible in all of this.
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He will be sentenced before the appeals. If he’s sentenced to incarceration, I would think they would let him remain on bond until the appeal is heard (called a “stay” of the sentence). The appeal will go on until after the election for sure.

I don’t think he should get jail time but if you told me you wanted to go to prison as a first time offender for a white collar crime I would advise you to act like Donald Trump.
 
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His own statement at sentencing will be interesting.


Will he deny everything?

Will he admit to the affair and the payoff but deny involvement in the cover up?

Will he attack the judge and prosecutor?

All possibilities. But denial and attacks may be designed to bait the judge into a harsher sentence. I can see it now: "I dare you to send me to jail, you conflicted scumbag! (Turns to gallery) Buy you're Free Trump t-shirts, hats, and number stickers at Trump.Russia.net."
 
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OrangeTsar said:
The rule of law also includes the right to appeal. Let’s wait and see how this whole thing plays out.
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Exactly. The left might be spiking the ball prematurely. Just like the right needs to accept the guilty verdict, if it’s overturned on appeal the left needs to accept that. Like it or not, this is our process and it should be accepted.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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I listened to some CNN discussions on Sirius and I’ll give them credit, they were covering everything fairly. They had opinions all over the place rather than just being an echo chamber. I’ve been critical of their partisan coverage previously but on this they’ve been pretty balanced from what I’ve seen and heard.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
He will be sentenced before the appeals. If he’s sentenced to incarceration, I would think they would let him remain on bond until the appeal is heard (called a “stay” of the sentence). The appeal will go on until after the election for sure.

I don’t think he should get jail time but if you told me you wanted to go to prison as a first time offender for a white collar crime I would advise you to act like Donald Trump.
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Thanks. Wrt the appeal that will be filed, do you think the appellate court will grant it or is it possible they could not grant an appeal based on review? What would, in this case, compel the appeals court to deny and how likely would that be in a case such as this, just as a guess?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
There should be some penalty or consequences for judges who get overturned on appeal. It might reduce junk like this. The Judge wouldn’t be so cavalier about making reversible errors from the bench if he knew there were some actual consequences
Doesn’t even have to be directly punitive. Maybe just a point system where you gain points for being upheld and lose points for being overturned. Then when you are nominated for a higher court, those scores can be considered in the decision.
Sort of like a “judicial ERA”. Heck we can even have trading cards 😂
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Forget that. I want to see us move to loser pays way more. If you sue me and lose then you should have to pay my legal bills. That’ll stop a lot of things that should never be in court. To me, if we’re changing anything with our legal system that’s at the top of the list.
 
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Septic said:
I remember when my world was black or white and only dichotomies of choice existed.

Then I turned seven.

I make no apologies for for my disdain for that pile of human trash. I find your "with us or against us" mentality and those that think your post was inspiring quite low IQ. I pity people who can't or otherwise refuse to grasp that there are some people who can believe both choices are poor. People like you who refuse to acknowledge that dogsh*t is just as unpalatabe as catsh*t. I kind of feel sad that you and your sychophantic ilk can't reconcile it.

The fact that you and turbo find fault with my take tells me I'm right where I should be.
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Good post. I laughed, I cried, I was touched in special places.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Forget that. I want to see us move to loser pays way more. If you sue me and lose then you should have to pay my legal bills. That’ll stop a lot of things that should never be in court. To me, if we’re changing anything with our legal system that’s at the top of the list.
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Thing is that when the “loser” is the government prosecution, they would pay out using taxpayer money, so we would lose either way. Nope, got to be some detriment to the professional standing or career of the responsible party
 
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