The Masters Tournament

#953
#953
Is there a stipulation where they could rescind the penalty after further review? Not saying they will, but I was wondering if it was even a possibility.
 
#955
#955
Tiger on the 15th. Laid up. Hit a great looking shot that he pulled the string on but it hit the pin and shot across the green into the water. Replayed the shot and put it within 3 feet. A 4 turned into a 6 real quick.
 
#957
#957
Hard to ever feel bad for a guy that has won as much as Tiger, but man, I hope he either wins or finishes more than 2 back.
 
#958
#958
BigOrangeWhitey said:
His scorecard has been signed. No reversal on the penalty. He was warned several times for slow play prior to it being enforced on 17. I'm sure every opportunity was given to the player to get back on track before the penalty was accessed. They didn't just go to him with the penalty. It happens. Unfortunate situation for this player.
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just saw the interview...he is a very mature 14 year old...I hope he does well, on the weekend
 
#959
#959
GAVol said:
Holy cow. That was some of the worst luck I've ever seen.
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I've never seen a ball hit the stick and shoot back 30 or more feet like that. It sucks too, because he was easily in line to be in one of the final two groups, but now, with his late start time today and being back in that huge group at -3, he's playing at 1:45 tomorrow. Damn this limited coverage that doesn't start till 3:00 every day. At least we'll get to see him play the back 9, which is more than we got yesterday.
 
#960
#960
Trying to get involved in golf, my cousin loves it and constantly asks me to play. I just don't understand the scoring, etc. So I may come up with some really stupid questions... thanks for the help in advance VN =)
 
#963
#963
BigOrangeWhitey said:
CBS nightly Master’s highlights with Jim Nantz reported tonite that the drop Tiger took on hole 15 today was being reviewed by the rules committee as a possible illegal drop. David Feherty on the show with Nantz stated it was an illegal drop but that Tiger didn’t gain an advantage from it. According to Feherty, the spot from where Woods made his drop was not correct. It was 2 feet behind the original spot when the shot was taken that hit flag & went in water. Tiger had 3 options on the play, play it out of the water, a drop in the drop area or drop from area where originally hit.

Remember this, it’s not up to the on course rules officials to tell a player where to drop from. Player should know the rule & if not he should then ask an official.
If the rules committee does address this & finds out there was a rules violation this may not turn out good

Here's a link found after the original post above:
The Masters 2013: Could potential Tiger Woods illegal drop lead to disqualification? - SBNation.com
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If he keeps the spot where he last crossed the margin of the hazard between himself and the hole, why can't he back up 2 yards? Theoretically he can drop anywhere on that line from the stick through the spot and beyond.
 
#964
#964
GAVol said:
If he keeps the spot where he last crossed the margin of the hazard between himself and the hole, why can't he back up 2 yards? Theoretically he can drop anywhere on that line from the stick through the spot and beyond.
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I don't think he dropped on the line the ball crossed the hazard, that's the issue
 
#967
#967
vol_in_ar said:
I don't think he dropped on the line the ball crossed the hazard, that's the issue
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I know it looked like the ball spun straight back and maybe a little left, but no idea how it was in relation to Tiger's line.

They'd almost have to go find the divots to figure out how close he was on the drop. But if he dropped within 6 feet of the previous spot, it's stupid to penalize him. I've
played a ton of competitive golf and everybody knows that you're supposed to go back to the original spot on a stroke and distance penalty, but nobody goes to the exact spot and here's why . . .

1990 Georgia State Junior on the 9th hole a 17 year old GAVol arrives at his well struck drive to find that the ball is in the middle of a divot; and not just a run of the mill divot . . . something that looks like the impact mark left by a meteor. I'm pretty much beside myself that somebody could be this big a jackass and leave a pothole in the middle of a fairway and tried to gouge it out. I thinned the bejeezus out of it and blew it over the green out of bounds.

Even more livid now, I grab a ball to take a stroke and distance drop at the same spot. As I let go of the ball, it dawns on me that I didn't fix the divot and I look down to see my ball settling back into the crater.

And that's why you don't ever drop in the exact spot.
 
#968
#968
And, for the love of God, can we please do away with this stupid rule where guys get DQ'd for signing incorrect scorecards when they find an unintentional rules violation after the fact? These guys know they're being watched on every shot. Nobody is cheating on purpose.
 
#969
#969
volinbham said:
Tiger on the 15th. Laid up. Hit a great looking shot that he pulled the string on but it hit the pin and shot across the green into the water. Replayed the shot and put it within 3 feet. A 4 turned into a 6 real quick.
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"Tiger good breaks in his career" now only leads "Tiger bad breaks in his career" by 283-1. You know like moving a monster boulder out of his way, or getting a free drop on the 18th when his second shot hit the top of the clubhouse and bounded onto the highway behind the golf course, or spectators giving him favorable deflections.
 
#970
#970
ZZ13 said:
"Tiger good breaks in his career" now only leads "Tiger bad breaks in his career" by 283-1. You know like moving a monster boulder out of his way, or getting a free drop on the 18th when his second shot hit the top of the clubhouse and bounded onto the highway behind the golf course, or spectators giving him favorable deflections.
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Like the other guys don't get the exact same rulings?
 
#971
#971
And if they DQ him over this, they'd better get out the video tape and review every single drop in the tournament. I guarantee you that a several foot margin of error is commonplace.

Then there's the other issue . . . How dumb is it for Tiger to talk about dropping in a different spot? This is one of those things that just happens and everybody knows it. You get within a few feet and take the drop.

I'm sure they'll find divot marks and if they're a few feet apart, everybody will move on. If they're 10 feet apart, I don't know what happens.
 
#974
#974
The next question is why on earth was Tiger talking about it? Everybody that's played competitively knows that there's sort of an accepted "area" to take that drop and nobody slightly cares about a yard or two unless he makes a point to bring it up.
 
#975
#975
BigOrangeWhitey said:
Right in the middle of all this the young amateur got accessed a penalty yesterday. Had that not happened, Tigers deal would probably come down to a judgement call on the line of drop. If the committee does find Tiger in violation, what happened yesterday to Guan should make what they gotta do a little easier
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The Guan ruling is one of the worst penalties I can imagine. I was listening to the XM broadcast yesterday and Tiger's group had to wait 30 minutes at the 4th tee and at one time there were 4 groups on a Par 3. Are they seriously going to say that what Guan did by taking a little over 40 seconds to pull the trigger was more egregious than what caused a 30 minute pileup?
 
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