The military purge stepping up

#105
#105
Septic said:
Pascal's Wager?

LOL, really?

Get that amateur hour sh*t out of here.
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I appreciate the dialogue and I’ll keep religion out of it. You never answered my question if you consider the United States the greatest country? If not, what was your motivation to serve?
 
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#108
Grand Vol said:
That's a fair answer. Though I do think there should be at least some minimum standards and guidance along with checks and balances on the matter. The way you described could be abused in the wrong hands.
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GV, we agree a lot, and disagree occasionally. The military branches of the United States of America exist for one reason, and one reason only: To protect this nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. You remember that oath right?

You and I both served in the military. We remember why we served, and what we trained for. War. Unconditional war.

Anything...anything...that reduces, discourages, or limits the lethality of our armed forces...by extension...reduces the effectiveness of our armed forces. The basic goal of the military is to make the enemy die for their cause.

So...anything...anything that reduces the primary goal, focus, fitness, and readiness for war...is to make us weaker as a nation.

Tough times require tough people. Diversity is the refuge of the weak-minded, and weak in both spirit, character, and morals. General George S. Patton was the ultimate warrior...God rest his soul...and he would have bitch-slapped the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff for even entertaining the thought of what the military is currently experiencing. And rightfully so.

Hurts my heart to see the greatest military forces in the history of the world get emasculated. Been going on for a while now.
 
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Credo said:
I appreciate the dialogue and I’ll keep religion out of it. You never answered my question if you consider the United States the greatest country? If not, what was your motivation to serve?
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Greatest in what way?

The subjectivity in that statement is too big to wrap my head around.

Healthcare?
Education?
Freedoms?
Happiness?
Quality of Life?
Human rights?
Class equity?

I'd say that an amalgamation of those metrics would put the United States in the top 10, sure.
 
#110
#110
Septic said:
Greatest in what way?

The subjectivity in that statement is too big to wrap my head around.

Healthcare?
Education?
Freedoms?
Happiness?
Quality of Life?
Human rights?
Class equity?

I'd say that an amalgamation of those metrics would put the United States in the top 10, sure.
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You’re overthinking it. If you could live anywhere else in the world, would you?
 
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#111
GreyWolf1129 said:
GV, we agree a lot, and disagree occasionally. The military branches of the United States of America exist for one reason, and one reason only: To protect this nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. You remember that oath right?

You and I both served in the military. We remember why we served, and what we trained for. War. Unconditional war.

Anything...anything...that reduces, discourages, or limits the lethality of our armed forces...by extension...reduces the effectiveness of our armed forces. The basic goal of the military is to make the enemy die for their cause.

So...anything...anything that reduces the primary goal, focus, fitness, and readiness for war...is to make us weaker as a nation.

Tough times require tough people. Diversity is the refuge of the weak-minded, and weak in both spirit, character, and morals. General George S. Patton was the ultimate warrior...God rest his soul...and he would have bitch-slapped the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff for even entertaining the thought of what the military is currently experiencing. And rightfully so.

Hurts my heart to see the greatest military forces in the history of the world get emasculated. Been going on for a while now.
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Even happening to my beloved Marine Corps
 
#112
#112
Credo said:
You’re overthinking it. If you could live anywhere else in the world, would you?
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I'm not overthinking it, suggesting that "murica is da' best" is nothing more than a nonsensical trope that's been installed into the fabric of our society as an adjunct to hyper-patriotism. It's proven to be a ridiculous belief as soon as someone is forced to answer the question "in what way?"

Would I live somewhere else? Sure, I guess. There are lots of beautiful places to live that score high on the list I asked you about. One can be both patriotic and realistic about the fact that America has a giant bag of rocks to carry around.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
GV, we agree a lot, and disagree occasionally. The military branches of the United States of America exist for one reason, and one reason only: To protect this nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. You remember that oath right?

You and I both served in the military. We remember why we served, and what we trained for. War. Unconditional war.

Anything...anything...that reduces, discourages, or limits the lethality of our armed forces...by extension...reduces the effectiveness of our armed forces. The basic goal of the military is to make the enemy die for their cause.

So...anything...anything that reduces the primary goal, focus, fitness, and readiness for war...is to make us weaker as a nation.

Tough times require tough people. Diversity is the refuge of the weak-minded, and weak in both spirit, character, and morals. General George S. Patton was the ultimate warrior...God rest his soul...and he would have bitch-slapped the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff for even entertaining the thought of what the military is currently experiencing. And rightfully so.

Hurts my heart to see the greatest military forces in the history of the world get emasculated. Been going on for a while now.
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I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me lol
 
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#114
GreyWolf1129 said:
GV, we agree a lot, and disagree occasionally. The military branches of the United States of America exist for one reason, and one reason only: To protect this nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. You remember that oath right?

You and I both served in the military. We remember why we served, and what we trained for. War. Unconditional war.

Anything...anything...that reduces, discourages, or limits the lethality of our armed forces...by extension...reduces the effectiveness of our armed forces. The basic goal of the military is to make the enemy die for their cause.

So...anything...anything that reduces the primary goal, focus, fitness, and readiness for war...is to make us weaker as a nation.

Tough times require tough people. Diversity is the refuge of the weak-minded, and weak in both spirit, character, and morals. General George S. Patton was the ultimate warrior...God rest his soul...and he would have bitch-slapped the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff for even entertaining the thought of what the military is currently experiencing. And rightfully so.

Hurts my heart to see the greatest military forces in the history of the world get emasculated. Been going on for a while now.
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I thought the reason was to kill people, break **** and have a little fun doing it. That’s why I joined anyway.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
GV, we agree a lot, and disagree occasionally. The military branches of the United States of America exist for one reason, and one reason only: To protect this nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. You remember that oath right?

You and I both served in the military. We remember why we served, and what we trained for. War. Unconditional war.

Anything...anything...that reduces, discourages, or limits the lethality of our armed forces...by extension...reduces the effectiveness of our armed forces. The basic goal of the military is to make the enemy die for their cause.

So...anything...anything that reduces the primary goal, focus, fitness, and readiness for war...is to make us weaker as a nation.

Tough times require tough people. Diversity is the refuge of the weak-minded, and weak in both spirit, character, and morals. General George S. Patton was the ultimate warrior...God rest his soul...and he would have bitch-slapped the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff for even entertaining the thought of what the military is currently experiencing. And rightfully so.

Hurts my heart to see the greatest military forces in the history of the world get emasculated. Been going on for a while now.
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Where I would draw the line is gang membership and support for things like BLM (or WLM if it existed). Gang membership issue is apparently a growing problem, and it would certainly seem to circumvent legitimate leadership. Viet Nam showed that racism in the ranks posed a significant problem to order and discipline. I'd think that if someone joined the military without leaving behind other allegiances that affect the ability to follow orders, then that person has no place in the military.
 
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AM64 said:
Where I would draw the line is gang membership and support for things like BLM (or WLM if it existed). Gang membership issue is apparently a growing problem, and it would certainly seem to circumvent legitimate leadership. Viet Nam showed that racism in the ranks posed a significant problem to order and discipline. I'd think that if someone joined the military without leaving behind other allegiances that affect the ability to follow orders, then that person has no place in the military.
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They have taken the US Capitol incident to purge any ideological dissent, which is what authoritarians do. I know you and everyone knows it. Just doesnt hurt to repeat it.
Hey Joe Scrarbrough..bite me..I aint moving. Thought you radicals promised to leave America when Trump was Prez.
 
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#122
#122
Credo said:
The Marines are a department of the Navy. The men’s department 👍🏻
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Yeah. Ya'll go over and storm that beach. I'll stay here and lob 9 inch shells at it to 'soften it up' for ya.

Testosterone isn't a brain drug.
 
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