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BBB you said you wanted to have an economic discussion about inflation, what is President Biden doing to fight inflation? What has he done in the past and what is he planning over the next two years? You keep going on and on about tax cuts and inflation. Should we reverse the Trump era tax cuts? How will that impact the average American? Providing stimulus checks to American families is the opposite of supply side economics, have they improved long term inflation projections? I will hang up and listen
 
Once again, stimulus was not needed at the time these tax cuts were passed....

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/05/us-tax-revenue-dropped-sharply-due-to-trump-tax-cuts-report.html

This is a terrible analysis on many different levels, but the some of the worst offenses are:

- there is no information given about the source of the data or what constant dollars it is denominated
- it doesn’t define tax revenue, so we don’t know if we are getting a like comparison across nations
- it’s largely a point of time analysis. That the cutoff year is 2020 is significant

Word of caution: when you find these types of red flags, it’s worth asking more questions and looking at the takeaways with a lot of skepticism.

Fortunately for you, I’m a skeptic and have some feee time this Friday, so I’ll do some of your work for you. I couldn’t find the source of these numbers nor could I match them with any government data I could find. That’s not to say they aren’t real, but I cannot know what is defined as revenue, is it in constant dollars, are gdp and revenue comparable in terms of the absolute dollars.

I gave up trying, but I did go to the Fred who tracks this exact statistic: Federal Receipts as Percent of GDP.

You can find that here: Federal Receipts as Percent of Gross Domestic Product

A few things to think about:

- The 40 year average is 17.1%
- median of 17.1…so we’re not working with a skewed set of data
- 50% of the data points in that time range fall between 16.5% and 17.7%

- The 10 years leading up to 2017 (2008 to 2017) the average was 16.2, weighed down some due to recession

- From 2018 - 2021, the average is 16.6%
- with 2021 coming in at 17.6%

As with anything like this, you can choose to conclude what you wish to conclude. Here is how I would objectively interpret this information:

1 - yes, lowering tax rates temporarily suppressed collections versus gdp. This would be expected, because the tax rate change is immediately while the output change is delayed

2 - There was a significant improvement in 2021, shooting up to 17.6%, a 340 bp improvement versus 2017. One might lazily and opportunistically claim it’s the tax cuts…I would want to better understand why this happened and see if this trend continues.

3 - the average of the years since the tax cuts, we are still clearly in the middle 50% of the last 40 years. No point in moving the tax rates higher.

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That's not gaslighting, that's straight up lying especially about the vaccine part. The "8.3 million jobs created" was mostly just the people returning to work after the shutdown not a creation of anything

Baghdad Bob was hanged for telling less lies than this administration.
 
Taxes should always be kept as low as possible because by nature they’re a negative. Both morally and economically.

But saying “the 90s was a great decade” doesn’t prove anything about supply side economics. It’s a weak argument

You can't explain how taxes and fuel costs harm an economy to someone who doesn't understand what sand in the gearbox does. They just can't grasp friction and losses.
 
Tax cuts are good for the economy but only if those cuts are matched by a decrease in spending. We as a country have wanted to eat our cake and have it too for more than 30 years and we have no one to blame but ourselves. We have run massive deficits for decades and it has only become worse. This is not a republican or democratic thing, it is a total failure of responsibility of our elected representatives and a direct reflection of the dumbing down of our population.

This administration is not only keeping up with the last 5-6 administrations in spending, but they are making worse. The spending has increased and the war on fossil fuels increases the costs of products in each step of production and distribution. "Drill baby drill" was the only thing that keep this inflation bubble from popping while Trump was in office. I am afraid we are all in for a lot of pain in the future.

This bolded part screams...that if we kept energy independence and even maybe the top exporter, which would lead to more jib and production we could start decreasing the debt..instead attacking FF has caused this bubble to explode..poor policy and statement by current administration is not holding off years of corruption and spending
 
POOF it's gone!

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