The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

[Rickyvol77]

Or two guys killed a jogger in February and nobody has done anything about it yet.

Maybe humanity is more important than the ignorant political scene.

Humanity? It was three idiots doing idiot human things. Happens everyday

 

[volfanjustin]

And why emotional? There was 20 plus people shot last week in Knoxvile

Likely another case of white guilt

 

[Rickyvol77]

Not trying to argue but if they thought he could possibly be armed having a weapon for protection is prudent. I just don't think they acted responsibly, they didn't intend to murder anyone IMO. If they did why call 911, why try to stop him etc? If just grabbing a weapon proves intent to murder than every officer or any person who ever shot someone in self defense would be guilty of murder in your scenario.

Exactly. This is the new generation of those raised in emotions instead of logical thinking

 

[Delmar]

I'm surprised by the murder charge as well, but don't know enough about the law (let alone Georgia's) to dispute what the GBI came down with other than a very (limited) general understanding of what constitutes murder versus manslaighter.

Nonetheless, I do not believe that either McMichael will be convicted of murder.

They won’t because they will plead out to a lesser charge. Their goose is cooked and will be headed up the river as they should be.

 

[n_huffhines]

It has 55 pages because liberals like you have a ton of white guilt

You're making it way more about about race than I am. The only thing I've said regarding race was a joke about cops. I'm actually more focused on 2a/responsible gun ownership and protection of life/liberty aspects since I'm not sure this is racial. Sorry I don't fit in your overly simplistic boxes

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Little too close to my daughter/her hubby and 3 grandkids on Saint Simons Island

Can I add this to yours? .......

Ahmaud Arbery case: Georgia father and son arrested, charged with murder

 

[volfanjustin]

You're making it way more about about race than I am. The only thing I've said regarding race was a joke about cops. I'm actually more focused on 2a/responsible gun ownership and protection of life/liberty aspects since I'm not sure this is racial. Sorry I don't fit in your overly simplistic boxes

You know damn well you and the other libs here wouldn’t have said a damn thing if the roles were reversed. Cops get killed-all good. White person gets killed by someone other than a cop-all good. Black person gets killed by another black person-all good. Black person gets killed by cop or white person-OMG let’s riot this is terrible black men being hunted down blah blah blah

 

[n_huffhines]

You know damn well you and the other libs here wouldn’t have said a damn thing if the roles were reversed. Cops get killed-all good. White person gets killed by someone other than a cop-all good. Black person gets killed by another black person-all good. Black person gets killed by cop or white person-OMG let’s riot this is terry black men being hunted down blah blah blah

Quit with your race-baiting. You are what you claim to hate. You are what you pretend I am. How do you explain all the conservatives who are troubled by this? You cannot

 

[volfanjustin]

Quit with your race-baiting. You are what you claim to hate. You are what you pretend I am. How do you explain all the conservatives who are troubled by this? You cannot

They are seeing a 30 second video and nothing more. If 2 black guys killed a white guy, no matter the reason you wouldn’t say a damn thing unless the 2 black guys were cops

 

[RollinVol]

Could these two get a fair trial at this point?

 

[Matt2496]

Father, son charged with killing black man Ahmaud Arbery

 

[Hunerwadel]

You know damn well you and the other libs here wouldn’t have said a damn thing if the roles were reversed. Cops get killed-all good. White person gets killed by someone other than a cop-all good. Black person gets killed by another black person-all good. Black person gets killed by cop or white person-OMG let’s riot this is terrible black men being hunted down blah blah blah

Your mind is so twisted and warped by politics you truly don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

 

[volfanjustin]

Your mind is so twisted and warped by politics you truly don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

I know how you libs think. The main point of this “story” is because it’s 2 white guys from the south and you socialists were hoping to pin this on Trump somehow or make it as this is what Trump supporters want to do to black people

 

[GAVol]

Likely another case of white guilt

Sad comment to trivialize the shock of seeing something like that with a tired political angle.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Your mind is so twisted and warped by politics you truly don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

Such irony in this post......lol.

 

[Hunerwadel]

I know how you libs think. The main point of this “story” is because it’s 2 white guys from the south and you socialists were hoping to pin this on Trump somehow or make it as this is what Trump supporters want to do to black people

I thought you were just crazy but I now believe you're suffering from bleach poisoning.

 

[n_huffhines]

They are seeing a 30 second video and nothing more. If 2 black guys killed a white guy, no matter the reason you wouldn’t say a damn thing unless the 2 black guys were cops

More race baiting. Shocker

 

[n_huffhines]

I thought you were just crazy but I now believe you're suffering from bleach poisoning.

He's a sad, angry little man with hate in his heart and doo-doo in his soul

 

[n_huffhines]

Could these two get a fair trial at this point?

Why not?

 

[KB5252]

Here's the problem with situations like these in the current climate, I use the word current loosely as this has been the case for dozens of years.

The African American, Hispanic and others who feel marginalized or distrustful of authority take a very hard anti posture towards the establishment. Partly because of their distrust of law enforcement and their willingness to accept the word or narrative of the victim or his or her advocates.

Those who support law enforcement back them for to their experience or knowledge and are winning to take the word or narrative of law enforcement.

Often the truth is in the middle but recently we've seen some high profile cares where emotion got the best of everyone. People with agendas immediately start pushing a narrative. A good example recently is of the Brown case, "hands up don't shoot" which turned out to be a farce. The Trayvon case which is much more complicated. And a number of other less covered cases.

And more we have this case, with video. And still we have different opinions. Some say this was execution, others say self defense. I don't see how the shooter can claim a classic case if self defense. It's clear to me the deceased initiated physical contact but only after confronted. This isn't a slam dunk case, it's complicated IMO. They should have never confronted this man but they did, and when he reacted to the threat he perceived, for whatever reason, he went after the shooter and the shooter was forced into either shooting or losing the weapon and risking being shot. He caused that series of events by his own actions and deserves to pay a price.

Now do I believe this guy was out jogging as his family is saying? Probably not given his past and the fact he looked like the guy who many had seen in the neighborhood. Even if he was the guy it really doesn't matter, he still deserved due process under the law. Instead these two knuckleheads went into this full of adrenaline cowboy style and really messed up. They took a life when it wasn't necessary and will soon pay the price. But I've seen people call this a lynching, that they were white supremacists etc. All this rhetoric does nothing to promote or further justice, it just makes it harder to achieve. It's no better than calling the victim a gang banging thug. The truth and details are what is most important. We as a society would be wise to lay off the rhetoric and let the facts come out and fall where they may.

 

[1972 Grad]

From here, it looks like "one of them deals" that didn't turn out like any of the 3 thought it would at the start. I still haven't watched the video. I don't particularly like seeing people get shot.

 

[volfanhill]

If you chase someone in a car you are a threat. If you chase someone, while showing a gun, you are twice the threat. How is it unreasonable for anyone to think he grabbed the gun bc he thought he was about to die?

 

[Blake25p]

The ONLY way I see these two being acquitted is if they witnessed him commit a crime then the citizens arrest would be valid and what happened after that was a tragedy (still should/would face punishment), but if they didn’t witness a crime then it’s just cold blooded murder and they should rot in prison IMO.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Why is this a major story?

Only because a white man killed a black man

 

[RockyTop85]

If you chase someone in a car you are a threat. If you chase someone, while showing a gun, you are twice the threat. How is it unreasonable for anyone to think he grabbed the gun bc he thought he was about to die?

Sounds like a perfectly legitimate question for a jury.

Which also gets to @bamawriter point about “why this is a story.” If the people tasked with presenting that question to a jury weren’t initially behaving unreasonably, this probably would have gone down with minimal comment, like any other senseless shooting.