The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

[Vol8188]

Can someone shed light on something I heard last night on one of the news channels -- that the shooters were basically out looking for the perpetrator of the prior crimes/and or saw this guy and thought he might be the suspect, and THAT THEY WENT AND GOT GUNS AND CAME BACK to confront him. Is that true?

That would be really bad.

After so many years, I thought your trolling abilities would have improved

 

[lawgator1]

After so many years, I thought your trolling abilities would have improved

I am being serious. I heard it, have not looked into it. Did that happen?

 

[Vol8188]

Yeah, they saw him and got the weekend rambo posse together. Unclear if they saw him running or peeping into the house that was under construction.

That part is clear. They saw him at the home under construction. His own aunt admitted the surveillance image was him.

 

[Vol8188]

I am being serious. I heard it, have not looked into it. Did that happen?

He was seen on surveillance cameras as verified by his own aunt at a home under construction. The home had previously had fishing equipment stole from it and the gentlemen with the guns had their vehicle broken into prior and a hand gun stolen.

But no, you’re not being serious at all.

 

[bamawriter]

Can someone shed light on something I heard last night on one of the news channels -- that the shooters were basically out looking for the perpetrator of the prior crimes/and or saw this guy and thought he might be the suspect, and THAT THEY WENT AND GOT GUNS AND CAME BACK to confront him. Is that true?

That would be really bad.

That appears to be the case.

 

[lawgator1]

He was seen on surveillance cameras as verified by his own aunt at a home under construction. The home had previously had fishing equipment stole from it and the gentlemen with the guns had their vehicle broken into prior and a hand gun stolen.

But no, you’re not being serious at all.

Did they leave and go get guns and come back?

 

[bamawriter]

That part is clear. They saw him at the home under construction. His own aunt admitted the surveillance image was him.

I haven't seen anyone argue that he wasn't looking around the unfinished house.

 

[Purple Tiger]

God, the son looks just like the comedian who makes fun of stereotypical MAGAnistas.

It's dumb fs like these guys that give the South a bad name. Also doesn't lend much credibility to the causes they support.

 

[Bigun]

Gotta wonder if the DA arrests them in the very beginning like he should have if this causes the uproar that it has. Probably mentioned but not blown up like it has. Does seem to have died down now that they have rightly been arrested. Will continue to die down as the legal system grinds to their normal 2-3 year hold up on a trial starting.

 

[Vol8188]

I haven't seen anyone argue that he wasn't looking around the unfinished house.

Evil appeared to be trying that angle

 

[Hunerwadel]

If they hadn't shot him at that point when they had opportunity to do previously, I wouldn't expect them to just shoot him if he continued to run away from them. Especially when they'd already called the cops. Not sure how they would explain that to the cops when they arrived.

Would I run at someone with a gun when I'm outside? No. Seems pretty dumb to me. Probably be alive if he hadn't.

Just because they haven't shot you yet doesn't mean they won't.

 

[Vol8188]

Did they leave and go get guns and come back?

Go ahead lg...let’s hear your weird take. I don’t believe they did but I may be wrong.

If they did...what?

 

[lawgator1]

That part is clear. They saw him at the home under construction. His own aunt admitted the surveillance image was him.

You seem to be suggesting that this makes it okay for these guys to see that, leave, go get guns, and come back to confront him.

 

[lawgator1]

Go ahead lg...let’s hear your weird take. I don’t believe they did but I may be wrong.

If they did...what?

Assuming they did, that in my view would effectively negate any claim they would make that they needed to confront him for some reason, rather than leave it to law enforcement.

The only time I can see taking matters into their own hands was if there was no option to call police. If they saw him, left and came back with guns, that means a) it was not urgent or imminent threat and they certainly had plenty of time to call police; and b) they sought a confrontation. They have no right to do so. And even if their tale of him grabbing at one of the guns in response is true, they invited that by their action to deliberately confront him when it was not necessary to do so.

 

[Hunerwadel]

I haven't heard who the person is that was taking the video. I figured it was someone neutral or it would have been destroyed.

I read where it was given to a news station anonymously. Anyway perhaps whoever took it knew they could get in trouble for tampering with evidence if he destroyed it. Assuming others knew it existed.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Just because they haven't shot you yet doesn't mean they won't.

I’m curious to how many in this thread regardless of what you think about the parties involved 100% think that if the suspect kept running away OR stopped to talk to them that they would have shot him?

 

[Behr]

God, the son looks just like the comedian who makes fun of stereotypical MAGAnistas.

Is that video the guy on the right above?

 

[bamawriter]

Go ahead lg...let’s hear your weird take. I don’t believe they did but I may be wrong.

If they did...what?

From the police report:

McMichael was in his front yard and saw the suspect from the break - ins "hauling ass" down Satilla Drive toward Burford Drive. McMichael stated he then ran inside his house and called to Travis (McMichael ) and said "Travis the guy is running down the street lets go" . McMichael stated he went to his bedroom and grabbed his .357 Magnum and Travis grabbed his shotgun because they " didn't know if the male was armed or not " . McMichael stated " the other night" they saw the same male and he stuck his hand down his pants which lead them to believe the male was armed

 

[bamawriter]

I’m curious to how many in this thread regardless of what you think about the parties involved 100% think that if the suspect kept running away OR stopped to talk to them that they would have shot him?

I'm not assuming they would have shot him but for the altercation, and it's irrelevant either way.

 

[Vol8188]

Assuming they did, that in my view would effectively negate any claim they would make that they needed to confront him for some reason, rather than leave it to law enforcement.

The only time I can see taking matters into their own hands was if there was no option to call police. If they saw him, left and came back with guns, that means a) it was not urgent or imminent threat and they certainly had plenty of time to call police; and b) they sought a confrontation. They have no right to do so. And even if their tale of him grabbing at one of the guns in response is true, they invited that by their action to deliberately confront him when it was not necessary to do so.

If you call the cops 9/10 nothing happens. The guy is already gone when they get there and then they shrug their shoulders and say “what do you want us to do?”

 

[BreatheUT]

If they hadn't shot him at that point when they had opportunity to do previously, I wouldn't expect them to just shoot him if he continued to run away from them. Especially when they'd already called the cops. Not sure how they would explain that to the cops when they arrived.

Would I run at someone with a gun when I'm outside? No. Seems pretty dumb to me. Probably be alive if he hadn't.

Bottom line is their azzes had the gun out and was threatening him. If I am the runner my brain is going a mile a minute as I approach that truck. You have to make a quick decision on what action you need to take. Did they have the right to threaten the guy? They are going down hopefully and the more I hear the defense on here the more I want them to.

Edited for correction.

 

[Behr]

I’m curious to how many in this thread regardless of what you think about the parties involved 100% think that if the suspect kept running away OR stopped to talk to them that they would have shot him?

He wouldn't have been shot if they hadn't chased him. He also wouldn't have tried to take a gun away if they didn't have one.

Not sure why it matters anyway, that's not what happened.

 

[Rickyvol77]

He wouldn't have been shot if they hadn't chased him. He also wouldn't have tried to take a gun away if they didn't have one.

Not sure why it matters anyway, that's not what happened.

I’m asking because some have said they set out to kill him with premeditation and I don’t believe that

 

[bamawriter]

If you call the cops 9/10 nothing happens.

And 10/10 times Arbery lives to see another day.

 

[Hunerwadel]

I’m curious to how many in this thread regardless of what you think about the parties involved 100% think that if the suspect kept running away OR stopped to talk to them that they would have shot him?

I don't think they would have shot him. But if you ever have a gun pointed at you (I have) I assure you that you won't know if they will or not.