The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

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Let's assume he entered the house under construction to steal something. Thats a minor crime that should be handled by the police.

A couple of redneck yahoos arming themselves to make a citizens arrest is not something we want to endure as a country
 
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lawgator1 said:
Let's assume he entered the house under construction to steal something. Thats a minor crime that should be handled by the police.

A couple of redneck yahoos arming themselves to make a citizens arrest is not something we want to endure as a country
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Lol hell some in this thread don’t even think the first thing you said should be a crime
 
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lawgator1 said:
Let's assume he entered the house under construction to steal something. Thats a minor crime that should be handled by the police.

A couple of redneck yahoos arming themselves to make a citizens arrest is not something we want to endure as a country
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What are you looking for here? You certainly won't get abosolution.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Some seem to be suggesting that his entry into the house justified the actions of the two men.
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I haven't read anything that indicates the McMichaels even knew he was at the construction site. It probably won't have any bearing on the outcome of this case. What do you think?
 
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bamawriter said:
If that's a crime, I've committed the same crime probably 25-30 times in my life.
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Me and you both. When my wife and I looked at houses, it was nothing unusual to go into houses under construction to see the layout. Probably done it 100 times in my life. Glad Ricky and some others on here weren’t in their pickups with shotguns running a stakeout in those neighborhoods. But then again, I’m not of the same persuasion as the dead guy so I guess I’d be OK.
 
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Delmar said:
Me and you both. When my wife and I looked at houses, it was nothing unusual to go into houses under construction to see the layout. Probably done it 100 times in my life. Glad Ricky and some others on here weren’t in their pickups with shotguns running a stakeout in those neighborhoods. But then again, I’m not of the same persuasion as the dead guy so I guess I’d be OK.
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You seem to be combining my statements. They are not exclusive.

The McMichaels still could’ve acted over the top and in a way that I personally would have never done
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Sneaking onto other people’s property and going thru their house (or car, boat, shed, yard, construction area, office, whatever) is still wrong, illegal and not a normal thing people do
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You seem to be combining my statements. They are not exclusive.

The McMichaels still could’ve acted over the top and in a way that I personally would have never done
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Sneaking onto other people’s property and going thru their house (or car, boat, shed, yard, construction area, office, whatever) is still wrong, illegal and not a normal thing people do
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So you never would have killed somebody?
 
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vollygirl said:
So you never would have killed somebody?
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Also please answer me this. If your family was building a shed and someone got into it and stole some tools in it one night and you got it on camera, and the two days later a guy shows up in your yard and and looks in your windows and tries to open your back door ( he doesn’t even go in your house). Would you think that is ok?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Also please answer me this. If your family was building a shed and someone got into it and stole some tools in it one night and you got it on camera, and the two days later a guy shows up in your yard and and looks in your windows and tries to open your back door ( he doesn’t even go in your house). Would you think that is ok?
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I would not kill him for looking in my window.
 
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vollygirl said:
What did he steal again?
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“Georgia Burglary Code” said:
A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another.
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Personally, I don’t believe that Arbery was just innocently admiring the craftsmanship. That does not mean I feel that he doesn’t deserve to be alive today by any stretch of the imagination, of course, but it renders me unmoved by the #IRunWithMaud hullabaloo.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
you don’t have to steal to commit a burglary and please answer my scenario I laid out for you
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A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another.
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OK, so it isn't first degree because there's no intent to commit a felony.

A person commits the offense of burglary in the second degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant building, structure, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, or aircraft.
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And it isn't second degree because there is no intent to commit a felony.

So what are you using to decide he is guilty of burglary?

2014 Georgia Code :: Title 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: Chapter 7 - DAMAGE TO AND INTRUSION UPON PROPERTY :: Article 1 - BURGLARY :: § 16-7-1 - Burglary
 
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vollygirl said:
OK, so it isn't first degree because there's no intent to commit a felony.


And it isn't second degree because there is no intent to commit a felony.

So what are you using to decide he is guilty of burglary?

2014 Georgia Code :: Title 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: Chapter 7 - DAMAGE TO AND INTRUSION UPON PROPERTY :: Article 1 - BURGLARY :: § 16-7-1 - Burglary
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How do you know his intent? But again please answer my question. So in the scenario I laid out, how would you feel about the guy coming onto your property and looking in your windows and trying to get in your back door? I’m not saying chase him down or anything about the McMichaels. I’m asking your feelings about it?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So in the scenario I laid out, how would you feel about the guy coming onto your property and looking in your windows and trying to get in your back door? I’m not saying chase him down or anything about the McMichaels. I’m asking your feelings about it?
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So he tried to enter an occupied house? When did this happen?
 
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