The murder of Ahmaud Arbery

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vollygirl said:
So he tried to enter an occupied house? When did this happen?
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Are that obtuse or just completely ignorant of the law. You don’t have to have a house with a person in it to be burglary. That’s aggravated burglary when that happens. Lol you’re avoiding the question because you KNOW you would be upset and/or scared and would not accept “I’m just checking out your house” as an answer.
 
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vollygirl said:
No it isn't. lol You are making **** up as you go.
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It’s a simple question. What would your feelings be if someone came up and looked on your window and tried to enter your house? Especially after 2 days before you had someone steal stuff from your shed?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Are that obtuse or just completely ignorant of the law. You don’t have to have a house with a person in it to be burglary. That’s aggravated burglary when that happens. Lol you’re avoiding the question because you KNOW you would be upset and/or scared and would not accept “I’m just checking out your house” as an answer.
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Keep typing words.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
It’s a simple question. What would your feelings be if someone came up and looked on your window and tried to enter your house? Especially after 2 days before you had someone steal stuff from your shed?
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I thought you said feelings weren't part of it. Let me go find the post, hold on.
 
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vollygirl said:
I thought you said feelings weren't part of it. Let me go find the post, hold on.
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I’m asking YOU what your feelings would be because it shows your line of “it’s just coming onto property no big deal” only matters when it’s not YOUR property. You 100% would think it’s wrong in that scenario and that’s why you won’t answer the question. Its shoots your own fallacy down
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I’m asking YOU what your feelings would be because it shows your line of “it’s just coming onto property no big deal” only matters when it’s not YOUR property. You 100% would think it’s wrong in that scenario and that’s why you won’t answer the question. Its shoots your own fallacy down
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Quote me where I posted that. I'll wait.

You talk more like a Walden Security type. Is that your gig?
 
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vollygirl said:
Quote me where I posted that. I'll wait.

You talk more like a Walden Security type. Is that your gig?
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lol nope executive manager and retired 22 yrs in LE.

So again, just for clarification do you think it’s wrong and a crime to go onto others property or do you think it’s not a big deal? It shouldn’t be hard to answer at all
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I was raised never to go on other people’s property especially in their house without permission. Were you raised differently?
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I came from a small town in Tennessee and my dad was a real estate broker/developer. I worked for him as an affiliate broker for a short time and it was common for people to go look inside unfinished houses like that.

Its funny to me that you make such a big deal about it. He shouldn't have gone inside, even if it was unfinished and had no doors. You have video of it and he stole nothing.

I was raised to not chase down anyone and shoot them. Legitimate cops wouldn't have done what these two idiots you're defending did.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
lol nope executive manager and retired 22 yrs in LE.

So again, just for clarification do you think it’s wrong and a crime to go onto others property or do you think it’s not a big deal? It shouldn’t be hard to answer at all
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Whether or not it is a crime is determined by the circumstances and the laws in place. You'd know that if you were really in law enforcement.

And I don't believe you are, or were.
 
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Behr said:
To be fair, that doesn't mean you were any good at either. I know people that have been doing the same jobs go over 25 years and they suck at it.
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Ok I never claimed to be perfect but I’ve never had any serious complaint issues or screwed up cases and was fair as an officer. Arrested several felons on the toughest beat in the city. Now I’ve been a manager in the largest and best hospital in the region and have had success there too.

And to your other post, I’m not defending the Mcmichaels and stated I would’nt have done the same if off duty. What I am saying is the dismissal of the the entirety of circumstances and legal discussion because “dur when I wiz a kid I used to go inside others houses” and “he wuz just jogging” is a rather shallow way of thinking

It feels like deja vu just like the Martin and Brown cases when I had similar discussions only to be told “you’re a racist, terrible police officer who wants to shoot everyone” “think of poor Michael brown’s mother” etc. When in reality I did like any person involved in law enforcement would do, gather the entirety of the facts including past of all subjects involved, use LE experience and read interpretations of the actual law and discuss both sides
 
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vollygirl said:
Whether or not it is a crime is determined by the circumstances and the laws in place. You'd know that if you were really in law enforcement.

And I don't believe you are, or were.
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You must have competed in gymnastics with that twisting to avoid giving a yes or no answer. You don’t even understand the basic elements of burglary because you thought a house had to be occupied. the truth is in the scenario I laid out you would call the police which you should do because it is a crime and it’s wrong.

As for my career, I don’t have to prove my history to a message board poster but if you’d like to know I worked beat 57 which covers Magnolia/walter P-Rutledge pike-Asheville Hwy-Straw Plains and I-40/I640

I will just sit back to watch the Facebook type crowd do their thing and post just like the other two cases
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You must have competed in gymnastics with that twisting to avoid giving a yes or no answer. You don’t even understand the basic elements of burglary because you thought a house had to be occupied. the truth is in the scenario I laid out you would call the police which you should do because it is a crime and it’s wrong.

As for my career, I don’t have to prove my history to a message board poster but if you’d like to know I worked beat 57 which covers Magnolia/walter P-Rutledge pike-Asheville Hwy-Straw Plains and I-40/I640

I will just sit back to watch the Facebook type crowd do their thing and post just like the other two cases
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I don't care to know. I don't have any respect for the way you choose to "discuss" things, and I don't care for you as a poster. Talk to somebody else.
 
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vollygirl said:
I don't care to know. I don't have any respect for the way you choose to "discuss" things, and I don't care for you as a poster. Talk to somebody else.
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Well you are the one who keeps coming back to discuss after saying you didn’t want to like 10 pages ago. And no offense, I don’t need respect from you. That’s not being hateful, I respect posters who have an intellectual discussion (even if we disagree) about actual topics, not the Facebook type discussions about what I ate for lunch or what dress someone looks good with.

I have no animosity towards you at all. God bless!
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What I am saying is the dismissal of the the entirety of circumstances and legal discussion because “dur when I wiz a kid I used to go inside others houses” and “he wuz just jogging” is a rather shallow way of thinking
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Is that how it came across to you? Like I was a dumb redneck, like your boys that killed Arbery?

My only point was you making such a big deal about it. Youre actually defending them chasing him down and killing him over going into an unfinished house. Video of him looking around and not stealing anything. F it, kill the mfer. Yes, that's it it comes across to me.

To everyone wondering why this case is such a big deal, its not to me, I'm just fascinated by Ricky and his defending these two asswipes to the point he is.
 
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Behr said:
Is that how it came across to you? Like I was a dumb redneck, like your boys that killed Arbery?

My only point was you making such a big deal about it. Youre actually defending them chasing him down and killing him over going into an unfinished house. Video of him looking around and not stealing anything. F it, kill the mfer. Yes, that's it it comes across to me.

To everyone wondering why this case is such a big deal, its not to me, I'm just fascinated by Ricky and his defending these two asswipes to the point he is.
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I wasn’t talking about your post. Quit being defensive. And I wasn’t defending them. Try again
 
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Behr said:
Is that how it came across to you? Like I was a dumb redneck, like your boys that killed Arbery?

My only point was you making such a big deal about it. Youre actually defending them chasing him down and killing him over going into an unfinished house. Video of him looking around and not stealing anything. F it, kill the mfer. Yes, that's it it comes across to me.

To everyone wondering why this case is such a big deal, its not to me, I'm just fascinated by Ricky and his defending these two asswipes to the point he is.
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Exactly. I'm fascinated by the argument that either he was in the wrong and they were in the right, or they were both in the wrong but him moreso. It's baffling.
 
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Hmmm... I did a search of the word "klan" in this thread to see if that had been mentioned yet.

Hadn't been brought up until now. Interesting...
 
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