the new definition of middle class

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#2
That is interesting since it wasn't that long ago that they said wealthy started at around $60K.
 
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#4
liberals are a pathetic bunch. sadly though they've taken control of our education system.
 
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because teachers tend to be idealists that have never worked a real job in their life.

Teaching's not a real job huh? I'm sure you work in a coal mine, or some other "real job". Interesting to see how much you value education.
 
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Teaching's not a real job huh? I'm sure you work in a coal mine, or some other "real job". Interesting to see how much you value education.

teaching affords a lot of liberties 99.9% of other jobs do not. it definetely attracts a certain type of person.
 
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#14
teaching affords a lot of liberties 99.9% of other jobs do not. it definetely attracts a certain type of person.

And it's essentially devoid of responsibility for outcomes. We've tried to tie outcomes into the deal, but the unions have forever screeched about it.
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And it's essentially devoid of responsibility for outcomes. We've tried to tie outcomes into the deal, but the unions have forever screeched about it.
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i have a buddy who gets an extra $5k a year for life (including retirement) because he got an online masters degree that probably took him approx 20 hours of real work. he also has zero problems using every one of his 10 sick days a year.
 
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#19
Seems like he made his name teaching at about a half-dozen schools. Now he's a contributor at a conservative think tank.

He knows what kind of garbage our universities are turning out as "teachers".
 
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#22
because teachers tend to be idealists that have never worked a real job in their life.

I'm married to a teacher, and more or less you are correct, though using the wide paint brush on this one isn't the right call.

The NEA is doing a hell of a job of turning the folks they "represent" into the most hated people going across the nation with their acceptance of crap performance.

Oddly, Colin Cowherd made a mention on his show, on how membership in a union gave one the option to strive for mediocrity and be successful financially in the long term, thats basically what the teachers' union does.

On the other hand, both of my sisters work at Charter Schools, non-union jobs, with higher salary and longer school hours (on top of what home time is needed), and are given performance based reviews. However, there is also a selection process to said schools, whereas my wife, in NEA land, has to deal with whatever **** comes through the door.

Just rambling at this point, but teachers are in a no win situation as far as public judgement goes, especially when they are forced into the union in order to work.
 
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I'm married to a teacher, and more or less you are correct, though using the wide paint brush on this one isn't the right call.

The NEA is doing a hell of a job of turning the folks they "represent" into the most hated people going across the nation with their acceptance of crap performance.

Oddly, Colin Cowherd made a mention on his show, on how membership in a union gave one the option to strive for mediocrity and be successful financially in the long term, thats basically what the teachers' union does.

On the other hand, both of my sisters work at Charter Schools, non-union jobs, with higher salary and longer school hours (on top of what home time is needed), and are given performance based reviews. However, there is also a selection process to said schools, whereas my wife, in NEA land, has to deal with whatever **** comes through the door.

Just rambling at this point, but teachers are in a no win situation as far as public judgement goes, especially when they are forced into the union in order to work.

Colin Cowherd should join a union then. Mediocrity would be a giant step forward.
 
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#24
Education should be 100% private.

If gov't (we the people) have a vested interest in education (and we do) then it should be in the form of a voucher or tax credit. In spite of what liberals believe, parents on average are far, far more qualified to choose the right school for their child than gov't is. It is also their RIGHT to determine what kind of social indoctrination their children receive.
 
#25
#25
Education should be 100% private.

If gov't (we the people) have a vested interest in education (and we do) then it should be in the form of a voucher or tax credit. In spite of what liberals believe, parents on average are far, far more qualified to choose the right school for their child than gov't is. It is also their RIGHT to determine what kind of social indoctrination their children receive.

I agree. If you look at all the nations on Earth the more privatized education is the more educated the populace is.
 

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