the new definition of middle class

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#78
tigervol9802 said:
It's the same here, although nowhere near that much.
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The cost of living argument (somewhat valid) and the teachers union buying off the politicians have slowly driven up these benefits for years. in an era when private employees are flat at best for 10 years teachers salaries are up 25%.
 
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#79
droski said:
i have a client who between her and her deceased husband take home $150k a year in retirement benefits from the two schools they worked for. one only worked there for 20 years.
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We are talking about the same ridiculous problem....

The couple I am talking about made in the same range in the mid-90's. He also did some part time "consulting" for the company I worked for without losing any benefits.
 
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#80
In summary... all education in the US should be private. If the gov't has a vested interest in universal education it should come in the form of vouchers or tax credits.

BTW, LG, Ed, et al... here is a place where a MAJOR chunk of gov't spending could be reduced by close to 50% with BETTER results. On average, we spend just shy of $10K per year in the US for roughly 50 million students. We spend about $500 billion on public education with disappointing results. A $4000 voucher per child would more than cover the US avg for private school tuition. That is a savings of $300 billion per year.... every year. Students get a better education, the students can be taught values according to the parents' beliefs without legal inhibitions, the system will produce a better "product" for the job market, and the economy gets a big chunk of tax relief.
 
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sjt18 said:
In summary... all education in the US should be private. If the gov't has a vested interest in universal education it should come in the form of vouchers or tax credits.

BTW, LG, Ed, et al... here is a place where a MAJOR chunk of gov't spending could be reduced by close to 50% with BETTER results. On average, we spend just shy of $10K per year in the US for roughly 50 million students. We spend about $500
billion on public education with disappointing results. A $4000 voucher per child would more than cover the US avg for private school tuition. That is a savings of $300 "
billion per year.... every year. Students get a better education, the students can be taught values according to the parents' beliefs without legal inhibitions, the system will produce a better "product" for the job market, and the economy gets a big chunk
of tax relief.
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So you think the Department of Education should be done away with and the government should give 50 million $4000 education vouchers
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#82
#82
Since my kid will be going to private school anyway, I would be more than happy to take that voucher and put it towards an excellent education for him.
 
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rjd970 said:
Since my kid will be going to private school anyway, I would be more than happy to take that voucher and put it towards an excellent education for him.
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No kiddin. Im glad you have the ability.

I just started a business, and my youngest has started K-5, I wish the money was there to have the option. Its not at this point.
 
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joevol320 said:
the dems just change the middle claim definition from below 250k a year to possibly a million. how funny.

Democrats alter plan on Bush tax cuts - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com


the fact is the republicans should extend tax cuts as is and cut spending. don't compromise with the losing party.
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Joe sometimes you really surprise me, the middle class is made up of small land holders, small business owners and other undesirables known as the bourgeoisie, they must be eliminated.

New Zeal: Comrade Atkins Admits Communist Infiltration of Democratic Party

The Communist Party USA works closely with the Communist parties of Cuba, China, Russia, and with many in Latin America, Africa and Asia.

It's loyalties do not lie with the United States of America, but with a re-energized and growing international communist movement.
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Really comrade Joe, you need to brush up on your manifesto. :sad:
 
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Vols378 said:
So you think the Department of Education should be done away with and the government should give 50 million $4000 education vouchers
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you could give a lot more than $4,000. undoubtably there would be for profit schools set up specifically to cater to the vouchers. the lousy schools would go under. natural selection.
 
#86
#86
I can only dream... one more year until my oldest starts the indoctrination camps. Nothing of note close by other than some uber religious schools.
 
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droski said:
because teachers tend to be idealists that have never worked a real job in their life.
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Teaching is just as much of a real job as being a stock broker. LOL

Have you ever been a teacher? If not, then you can't possibly have a clue about it. Right?
 
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#92
no but most of the ones I've known throughout my life were. A new teacher and one who's been at it for 20yrs will have much different views on the profession
 
#93
#93
difference between virginia and california i suppose. all of the older teachers at her school are liberal and most delusional.
 
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#94
droski said:
my wife is a teacher. i think i know a thing or two.
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:birgits_giggle: So

My wife is a dentist. I might know a thing or two about what not to do to your teeth and proper preventative care, but cannot comment on her job relative to other professions as being "real" or not. Same should apply to you, but as I have seen from this board, you are an expert in many fields, not just financial planning:eek:k:
 
#95
#95
you can't comment on her job with authority? you must be a pretty lousy and unattentive husband.
 
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#96
droski said:
you can't comment on her job with authority? you must be a pretty lousy and unattentive husband.
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No, she works extremely hard, but I can't say harder that a school teacher. I am certain, though, she works much harder than most stock brokers. :wink2:

YOU must think you actually know what you are talking about. After reading dozens of your posts, you are wrong as often as you are right.
 
#97
#97
I thought you couldn't comment on whether her job was harder than other professions, but now you know it's not harder than a school teacher? and you have no idea what i do for a living. axion jackson right?
 
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#98
droski said:
I thought you couldn't comment on whether her job was harder than other professions, but now you know it's not harder than a school teacher? and you have no idea what i do for a living. axion jackson right?
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Don't care what you do for a living. Don't care that you have no clue as to what your talking about concerning the teaching profession.

Regardless, the fact remains, you speak about things as though you are in the know far too often when you don't have the first clue.
 
#99
#99
how do you know i have no clue if you can't even comment on the difficulty of what your wife does for a living? ignorance is bliss I guess.
 
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