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#3,853
#3,853
Thunder Good-Oil said:
I don't think that Barnes was easily accessible with the post game TV interview, impromptu locker room celebration for #700, CRB having to change his clothes after being drenched with water by the team as he entered the locker room, the post game radio show, being shuttled off to his media presser, and then planning to rush off and catch a plane. Turner's announcement was very informal. He just kind of told those interviewing him, "by the way, that was my last game as a Vol".
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I don’t buy that. He obviously knew this before the game.
 
#3,854
#3,854
golfballs said:
I don’t buy that. He obviously knew this before the game.
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He decided before the game, but didn't necessarily think through how it would be announced. Typically Barnes probably hangs around the basketball offices after home games. Instead he had plans to get the hell out of Dodge and go see his grandkids.
 
#3,855
#3,855
Thunder Good-Oil said:
He decided before the game, but didn't necessarily think through how it would be announced. Typically Barnes probably hangs around the basketball offices after home games. Instead he had plans to get the hell out of Dodge and go see his grandkids.
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Not sure why it had to be announced that afternoon. Just seems odd. People normally get pissed when it’s the other way around and players find out their coach is leaving the program through the media.
 
#3,857
#3,857
golfballs said:
Not sure why it had to be announced that afternoon. Just seems odd. People normally get pissed when it’s the other way around and players find out their coach is leaving the program through the media.
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It didn't have to be announced that way, that's how he decided to go about it.

The UTAD Public Relations group screwed up honoring the 1978-79 SECT champions. They missed it by a year, they funnel them onto the court without any introductions, they hurry them off of the court for some dumb trampoline performance. They play a video AFTER the trampoline exhibition had ended. They also have the published game notes comically full of incorrect information just about every game. They clumsily throw up a Fulmer congratulatory video (the audio was initially muted and then not understandable) after the final whistle of CRB's 700th win. The presser after Kiffin announced he was leaving was an absolute clown show. I don't blame LT one bit for not turning it over to them to orchestrate another **** show of an event. He simply sat in front of the media gathered around him looking for his post game comments and said he was done. I kind of liked his approach.
 
#3,858
#3,858
Thunder Good-Oil said:
It didn't have to be announced that way, that's how he decided to go about it.

The UTAD Public Relations group screwed up honoring the 1978-79 SECT champions. They missed it by a year, they funnel them onto the court without any introductions, they hurry them off of the court for some dumb trampoline performance. They play a video AFTER the trampoline exhibition had ended. They also have the published game notes comically full of incorrect information just about every game. They clumsily throw up a Fulmer congratulatory video (the audio was initially muted and then not understandable) after the final whistle of CRB's 700th win. The presser after Kiffin announced he was leaving was an absolute clown show. I don't blame LT one bit for not turning it over to them to orchestrate another **** show of an event. He simply sat in front of the media gathered around him looking for his post game comments and said he was done. I kind of liked his approach.
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I’m sure LT wasn’t thinking about the 1978 PR debacle. Anyway I just think it’s odd. LT is a UT alum and VFL for life. He means a lot to this program and I hope everything is good between him the university and Barnes.
 
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#3,859
golfballs said:
I’m sure LT wasn’t thinking about the 1978 PR debacle. Anyway I just think it’s odd. LT is a UT alum and VFL for life. He means a lot to this program and I hope everything is good between him the university and Barnes.
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Those are just examples from the overpaid, incompetent hacks in the UTAD PR Deptartment. I'm sure that LT has noticed their performance through the years.
 
#3,861
#3,861
I think Jordan Bowden has NBA skills and thought he would show it, this year. So far, I've been wrong. Now, with Turner done for the year, it's another chance for Bowden to grab the brass ring and shine. I think we will know next Saturday against Wisconsin, if Bowden is willing and able to make it, "His Team". Honestly, I'm afraid Bowden will never be the alpha Dog, I really hope I'm wrong
 
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#3,862
The Dog said:
I think Jordan Bowden has NBA skills and thought he would show it, this year. So far, I've been wrong. Now, with Turner done for the year, it's another chance for Bowden to grab the brass ring and shine. I think we will know next Saturday against Wisconsin, if Bowden is willing and able to make it, "His Team". Honestly, I'm afraid Bowden will never be the alpha Dog, I really hope I'm wrong
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If he’d step into that role, watch out SEC. Dude is a sharpshooter and he hasn’t even fully tapped into his athleticism, his confidence issues are his greatest detriment.
 
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#3,864
i2amavol said:
Just like Fulky and Pons have stepped up this year, and become better players, I would expect (hope) that some of the younger guys would be able to step up and become leaders on the floor. We certainly don't have much time before league play, but this is still doable.

I'm most worried about safely getting the ball up the court, and getting the team into the correct play. As long as we can do that, we will be OK. The biggest issue is that we have one less experienced player to count on. Will we run out of timeouts before the end of the game, with Barnes just trying to calm everyone down, and getting them on the same page?

As was said above, hopefully the SEC is having a down year, and there will be other teams in the same boat as us. I haven't really kept up with the other teams, so I have no idea.

We have plenty of players with the ability score. 12 points a game is not that hard to replce. We have plenty of height on this team (not discounting our center/post issues here). Losing Turner doesn't change that. It is just a matter of getting younger players to perform up to their abilities. Again, a calming influence and another body, is what we are losing most here, not the ability to defend, score, rebound, etc.
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Wrong!! We just lost our best on the ball defender. Other PG's are gonna live in the lane. I suspect we will see a noticeable drop off on the defensive end. On offense I can see us being ok against teams that don't pressure that much like a Wisconsin or past versions of them. Haven't seen them this year. I'm glad we are seeing a team like that this weekend instead of a team like Auburn.
 
#3,865
#3,865
I wish Turner would just decide to play one more game and treat it like a senior day for him. This would fire the team and the fans up and give us a boost in a very important game. I remember we had a d lineman one year that did this against Florida. Announced he was having season ending surgery after the game. Fans rallied for him. Sorry but I can't remember the name.
 
#3,866
#3,866
ColinS said:
I wish Turner would just decide to play one more game and treat it like a senior day for him. This would fire the team and the fans up and give us a boost in a very important game. I remember we had a d lineman one year that did this against Florida. Announced he was having season ending surgery after the game. Fans rallied for him. Sorry but I can't remember the name.
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Torn biceps, he didn’t finish the game and Tennessee lost (if I remember correctly....which I don’t at times).

No “knowledge” of the situation; however I would assume Turner is on a time table, and wants to have surgery as soon as possible (after the holidays). Staying....for even one more game changes things. I’m confident he wants to get this done, get rehabbing, and get back on track as soon as possible......in order to play professional next season (somewhere). If my assumption is correct he needs to get things going sooner rather than later.

I really think he tried to “wait it out” as see if things could get better while still playing. Once he understood surgery was the option, he didn’t have much of an option but to leave now.......in order to make way for his future plans.
 
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#3,867
#3,867
ColinS said:
Wrong!! We just lost our best on the ball defender. Other PG's are gonna live in the lane. I suspect we will see a noticeable drop off on the defensive end. On offense I can see us being ok against teams that don't pressure that much like a Wisconsin or past versions of them. Haven't seen them this year. I'm glad we are seeing a team like that this weekend instead of a team like Auburn.
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I agree we will get taken advantage of by pressing teams. I just don't know how we have kept so many teams under 65 points a game without a team full of decent defenders. Maybe I am wrong about this part, and certainly freshmen are going to have mental lapses, but I just don't see this as our biggest problem.
 
#3,868
#3,868
i2amavol said:
I agree we will get taken advantage of by pressing teams. I just don't know how we have kept so many teams under 65 points a game without a team full of decent defenders. Maybe I am wrong about this part, and certainly freshmen are going to have mental lapses, but I just don't see this as our biggest problem.
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I think we will eventually adjust defensively and get back to the same level but it might just not happen quick enough to savage this season.
 
#3,869
#3,869
zjcvols said:
God there are absolutely some delusional people that think somebody is going to magically replace what Turner does.
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Agree, it's like they are in complete denial. Taking your best ballhandler out of an already struggling offense and your best on ball defender from the defense. It's a death nail. We will have some moments moving forward but the absolute best case scenario with Barnes being a genius is NCAA bouble.
 
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#3,870
#3,870
i2amavol said:
Interesting factoids: Wisconsin has won every home game this year - and lost every away game. They are 6-5. They play Tennessee at Thompson-Bowling Arena this year.

Taking this one game at a time, there is a sliver of hope.
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We can definitely beat Wisconsin. We are at home and they are not very good.
 
#3,872
#3,872
ColinS said:
I think we will eventually adjust defensively and get back to the same level but it might just not happen quick enough to savage this season.
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A big part of what’s been making our D effective this year has been Pons challenging so my shots at the rim. Besides Bowden, who else is quick enough to stay in front of a quality penetrating guard now that LT is gone? Is either Johnson or Gaines quick enough because Pember and ORN aren’t. CRB may be forced to move Pons out to defend quick guards on the perimeter which would pull him away from the rim. Guess we’ll see?
 
#3,873
#3,873
walkenvol said:
A big part of what’s been making our D effective this year has been Pons challenging so my shots at the rim. Besides Bowden, who else is quick enough to stay in front of a quality penetrating guard now that LT is gone? Is either Johnson or Gaines quick enough because Pember and ORN aren’t. CRB may be forced to move Pons out to defend quick guards on the perimeter which would pull him away from the rim. Guess we’ll see?
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Pember has very good feet for a player his size. I've seen him hold his own against smaller wings on several occasions.
 
#3,874
#3,874
ColinS said:
Pember has very good feet for a player his size. I've seen him hold his own against smaller wings on several occasions.
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Sorry - there’s no way Pember can stay in front of a quality SEC penetrating type guard. He’s almost 7’ tall. His length can help on the perimeter, but he’s not shown the quickness to stay in front of smaller guys.
 
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#3,875
#3,875
ColinS said:
We can definitely beat Wisconsin. We are at home and they are not very good.
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Interesting take given your other posts...

Per KenPom Wisconsin would rank 5th in the SEC, here you are stating “we can definitely beat them”, but then acting as if we are a bottom tier SEC team now without Turner? If we can beat Wisconsin that’s a pretty good sign that we can probably find a way to way 9-10 games in league play, which very well might get us in the dance.
 
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