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Blackshear dragged his decision out until what, June 26th? How many other options were there going to be available at that point? And how many of them would have been real impact guys? The decision to pursue him was a calculate risk that backfired. It didn't really lend itself to a contingency plan due to timing.
30 years in you'd think you'd know the odds on calculated risks woontya? That was a make or break deal on our frontcourt and then add the Serbian debacle and you've got a double fail.
Sorry but just not too impressed with the old boy's recent efforts in program buildin. But. There's always next season. It is TN after all. We always doin the Next Season tango.
 
30 years in you'd think you'd know the odds on calculated risks woontya? That was a make or break deal on our frontcourt and then add the Serbian debacle and you've got a double fail.
Sorry but just not too impressed with the old boy's recent efforts in program buildin. But. There's always next season. It is TN after all. We always doin the Next Season tango.
Well, if it were that black and white, sure he would have known the odds. Of course, if the options were Blackshear and Player X who would have contributed 5 pts and 3 rebs per game, and Barnes took Player X, we'd get to hear all the moaning about taking another non-contributor. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
 
Well, if it were that black and white, sure he would have known the odds. Of course, if the options were Blackshear and Player X who would have contributed 5 pts and 3 rebs per game, and Barnes took Player X, we'd get to hear all the moaning about taking another non-contributor. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
5 pts and 3 rebounds looks pretty good from our BENCH right now, but I getcha.
 
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Well, if it were that black and white, sure he would have known the odds. Of course, if the options were Blackshear and Player X who would have contributed 5 pts and 3 rebs per game, and Barnes took Player X, we'd get to hear all the moaning about taking another non-contributor. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

That's the key point, unfortunately. Program has never reached a Final Four, and has only made the Elite Eight once. But because Barnes got paid we're suddenly supposed to be a top 10 team every year and pushing for Elite Eight or Final Four appearances?

Before the season started I thought we could be a 22 win team, and I'm overly optimistic in most predictions. I figured we'd have Uros and Turner all season too (and healthy). Sucks we're sitting at just 15 wins and need deep runs in the SECT and/or the NCAA (if we were to make it) to possibly hit 22 wins now. I don't know if Barnes' style of recruiting/coaching will ultimately lead us to a Final Four appearance. But I know he develops players and staff and if he can't get his there at least the foundation will be stronger for the next coach after him than it was after every previous coach left.
 
That's the key point, unfortunately. Program has never reached a Final Four, and has only made the Elite Eight once. But because Barnes got paid we're suddenly supposed to be a top 10 team every year and pushing for Elite Eight or Final Four appearances?

Before the season started I thought we could be a 22 win team, and I'm overly optimistic in most predictions. I figured we'd have Uros and Turner all season too (and healthy). Sucks we're sitting at just 15 wins and need deep runs in the SECT and/or the NCAA (if we were to make it) to possibly hit 22 wins now. I don't know if Barnes' style of recruiting/coaching will ultimately lead us to a Final Four appearance. But I know he develops players and staff and if he can't get his there at least the foundation will be stronger for the next coach after him than it was after every previous coach left.
Yeah, I purposely waited until the Uros denial to make my prediction of 18-13, and that was with a healthy Turner, so I can’t say we’re far off of my expectations. I don’t look at someone’s newfound salary and expect them to immediately turn water into wine. Barnes was going to struggle with this team regardless of his salary. How much of that realistically falls on him is obviously a debatable topic, but the expectation that he was going to make this same group of guys a top 10 team because he got paid more money is about as ignorant an expectation as can possibly be dreamed up.

Realistically, his first step towards further justifying that salary increase would come in the 2020 recruiting class. That was the first real chance he would have to “step up” his game. He knocked that class out of the park. Springer, K Johnson, Walker, and Vescovi was one heck of a class on paper. Vescovi being the least heralded has already returned immediate results and significant hope for our immediate future.

The next realistic opportunity to further justify that pay increase will come during the summer as the staff continues to lay the groundwork for the 2021 class, which will have a chance to sign immediately after the tip of the 2020-21 season. Following a down year on the floor, Barnes will have to sell our still recent success, team inexperience, incoming talent, and opportunity to the 21 class.

Then, on the floor improvement must come from the talent he has secured, starting next season. Landing top shelf talent is meaningless if it doesn’t lead to greater results. That is where the true justification can be earned, and should be expected by fans.
 
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Agreed completely.

It's unfortunate we didn't have stronger recruiting classes prior to 2019 (28th) & 2020 (5th), probably my biggest gripe. Especially with the attrition we've had it's hard to point to the lower rankings as a positive and say he went for developmental guys (which is probably true, but when so many don't stay at UT it's a hard sell).

Assuming he can develop the 4 & 5 stars as well as he's proven he can develop the 3 stars we should be in fantastic shape now that the foundation is set.
 
O/T the BaseVols moved to 7-0 this weekend after going 3-0 in the Round Rock Classic in Texas, beating #1 Texas Tech 6-2, Houston 8-4, and #25 Stanford 7-2. And somehow Baseball America didn't put them in their Top 25, and moving Texas Tech up to #2 from #4 in their poll even though they lost to us.

Rankings mean little right now but still...I'd love someone to explain how that worked.
 
Not sure who to root for, we play SC twice so maybe them but they could also potentially be competition for a bubble spot as well as seeding for the SEC tourney so I’ll go Georgia
 
This team looks like they've quit, not really the effort, just from a morale standpoint, which was my fear after that AU debacle. They just look defeated. The start to this game didn't help the morale.
Maybe, at the start of the game, but I don't see any quit, now
 
Maybe, at the start of the game, but I don't see any quit, now
Quit might not be the best word. They just don't look like they believe they can win outside of that 11-0 spurt. Arkansas is hitting his some ridiculous shots, though, which doesn't help your confidence.
 
Quit might not be the best word. They just don't look like they believe they can win outside of that 11-0 spurt. Arkansas is hitting his some ridiculous shots, though, which doesn't help your confidence.
Nope, the dream of the NCAA Tournament is probably over unless UT wins out and I don't see that happening. Well, I guess there is still a possibility that the Vols could get hot and win the SEC Tourney, but damn, what's it been 40 years since we won one of them. I'll still watch and/or listen to every game, but this season is more or less a wrap. Next basketball season can't get here fast enough
 
Nope, the dream of the NCAA Tournament is probably over unless UT wins out and I don't see that happening. Well, I guess there is still a possibility that the Vols could get hot and win the SEC Tourney, but damn, what's it been 40 years since we won one of them. I'll still watch and/or listen to every game, but this season is more or less a wrap. Next basketball season can't get here fast enough

We're not winning out; in fact it's more likely we lose out. I don't even think we make the NIT.
 

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