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bleedingTNorange said:
This is the worst year in a long time/potentially ever at the top, that’s what makes it different. We wouldn’t be a 2 seed sitting at 19-6 in years past either, the top of the field is at an all time low.
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Maybe, but if the season ended today we'd be a 3 seed most likely.

Houston, Bama, Purdue, UCLA as 1 seeds
Kansas, Texas, Virginia, Arizona as 2 seeds
Baylor, Us, Marquette, Kansas State as 3 seeds (possibly Gonzaga)

And that's just going by the AP rankings without all the back/forth that happens when seeding is done.

I'll just say this, the only way we get a 2 seed IMO is if we don't lose more than 2 games between now and selection Sunday.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Maybe, but if the season ended today we'd be a 3 seed most likely.

Houston, Bama, Purdue, UCLA as 1 seeds
Kansas, Texas, Virginia, Arizona as 2 seeds
Baylor, Us, Marquette, Kansas State as 3 seeds (possibly Gonzaga)

And that's just going by the AP rankings without all the back/forth that happens when seeding is done.

I'll just say this, the only way we get a 2 seed IMO is if we don't lose more than 2 games between now and selection Sunday.
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My point was simply that overall it’s down, so comparing to years past isn’t really apples to apples at this point, so many of them already have 6 losses like we do. You’re talking 4-5 B12 teams in that range, they are going to suffer losses as they beat up on each other in the regular season and then B12 tourney as well.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Olivier only plays well when everybody else is playing well. I don't even think it's a "want to" problem, I just think he's lacking in the BBIQ department. He doesn't play like he grew up playing basketball.
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Lol when I first read this, I read it as "lacking in the BBQ department"; I was like "man, he sucks at BBQ too? Harsh."
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
My point was simply that overall it’s down, so comparing to years past isn’t really apples to apples at this point, so many of them already have 6 losses like we do. You’re talking 4-5 B12 teams in that range, they are going to suffer losses as they beat up on each other in the regular season and then B12 tourney as well.
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It's never apples to apples, just like projecting with 6 games left isn't apples to apples with seeding debates after the SECT is done.

I just brought up previous seeding to point out that we've never gotten a 1 seed...and already sitting at 6 losses this year doesn't seem to be a good candidate for it either.

I think we have 4 quad 2 losses as well and Kentucky could become a quad 2 loss.

I for sure would prefer us finish 6-0 and revisit the debate after the SECT championship game we win to repeat. ;)
 
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I love Tennessee sports, but this Barnes hate is so confusing to me. Yes, the basketball Vols have sh!t the bed a few times under Barnes, but not to the level the football team did against South Carolina, last year. Talk about a choke job, that's a monumental choke job. Beat a 6-4 'Cocks team and we are in the CFP and it was a complete embarrassment, imo. We also have the hands down #1 seed in baseball and don't even make the CWS. Nothing Barnes has done compares to either one of those things. But, I don't hear a damn word about those 2 classic choke jobs. Guess the new hasn't rubbed off, yet. Wonder if those 2 coaches get the Barnes-level hate if it happens again ?
 
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The Dog said:
I love Tennessee sports, but this Barnes hate is so confusing to me. Yes, the basketball Vols have sh!t the bed a few times under Barnes, but not to the level the football team did against South Carolina, last year. Talk about a choke job, that's a monumental choke job. Beat a 6-4 'Cocks team and we are in the CFP and it was a complete embarrassment, imo. We also have the hands down #1 seed in baseball and don't even make the CWS. Nothing Barnes has done compares to either one of those things. But, I don't hear a damn word about those 2 classic choke jobs. Guess the new hasn't rubbed off, yet. Wonder if those 2 coaches get the Barnes-level hate if it happens again ?
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This is the distinction. If that kind of thing keeps happening, they'll get the same heat I'd think
 
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The Dog said:
I love Tennessee sports, but this Barnes hate is so confusing to me. Yes, the basketball Vols have sh!t the bed a few times under Barnes, but not to the level the football team did against South Carolina, last year. Talk about a choke job, that's a monumental choke job. Beat a 6-4 'Cocks team and we are in the CFP and it was a complete embarrassment, imo. We also have the hands down #1 seed in baseball and don't even make the CWS. Nothing Barnes has done compares to either one of those things. But, I don't hear a damn word about those 2 classic choke jobs. Guess the new hasn't rubbed off, yet. Wonder if those 2 coaches get the Barnes-level hate if it happens again ?
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Responding to imbecile negavols by bashing our other teams is extremely wrongheaded, my friend. Don't go Cal vs Stoops self-destructive on us.

And it appears, in addition, that you don't read the football forum because you would see the same style idiots waiting for a chance to pounce.

All for one and one for all.
 
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Vol49er said:
This is the distinction. If that kind of thing keeps happening, they'll get the same heat I'd think
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Yeah I was about to say, the only difference is Barnes has been much longer than either of those two.

If Vitello has a great season every year, is number 1 in the country, but doesn't make Omaha, then he will get heat

If Heupel goes 10-2, and losses to a **** team or slips up, then he will get the heat as well. Although 10-2 will be playoff caliber in a few years lol

Putting the negativity beside, I think Barnes is here to till the end of his contract, unless everything just blows up or his health catches up to him, which I'm fine with, I enjoy our team and where our program is now.
 
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The Dog said:
I love Tennessee sports, but this Barnes hate is so confusing to me. Yes, the basketball Vols have sh!t the bed a few times under Barnes, but not to the level the football team did against South Carolina, last year. Talk about a choke job, that's a monumental choke job. Beat a 6-4 'Cocks team and we are in the CFP and it was a complete embarrassment, imo. We also have the hands down #1 seed in baseball and don't even make the CWS. Nothing Barnes has done compares to either one of those things. But, I don't hear a damn word about those 2 classic choke jobs. Guess the new hasn't rubbed off, yet. Wonder if those 2 coaches get the Barnes-level hate if it happens again ?
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Sure it was a collapse it was Heup’s second season. Lol he had UT in places that took Barnes 4 years to sniff.
 
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The Dog said:
I love Tennessee sports, but this Barnes hate is so confusing to me. Yes, the basketball Vols have sh!t the bed a few times under Barnes, but not to the level the football team did against South Carolina, last year. Talk about a choke job, that's a monumental choke job. Beat a 6-4 'Cocks team and we are in the CFP and it was a complete embarrassment, imo. We also have the hands down #1 seed in baseball and don't even make the CWS. Nothing Barnes has done compares to either one of those things. But, I don't hear a damn word about those 2 classic choke jobs. Guess the new hasn't rubbed off, yet. Wonder if those 2 coaches get the Barnes-level hate if it happens again ?
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It absolutely will. If TV doesn't make Omaha this year it will ramp up, and if we take a step or 2 back next season in football it will start to build.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Mizzou shot over 50% from 3 with nearly 30 attempts and we lost by a last second buzzer beater. The game was absolutely variance.

About 3/4 variance with 1/4 being our mental collapse in the final minute.

Vandy game was similar. If our offense keeps playing this well, it wouldn’t shock me if we pounded Alabama. No cap.
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If we face Bama without JJJ and Phillips then our chances go down significantly
 
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omghulkhands said:
Idk much about hip flexors. Anyone know the recovery timeline for those?
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Quick google search says 7-10 days of rest typically, it’s essentially a pain tolerance thing. He injured it Thursday or Friday and gave it a go on Saturday and played pretty well I thought, coming off the floor at half he was in pain and Barnes said he wasn’t coming back in.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Quick google search says 7-10 days of rest typically, it’s essentially a pain tolerance thing. He injured it Thursday or Friday and gave it a go on Saturday and played pretty well I thought, coming off the floor at half he was in pain and Barnes said he wasn’t coming back in.
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That makes me slightly optimistic. At his age with a full medical/PT team at his disposal.
 
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