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There’s a time and a place for everything. During live play would not be the time I would want my players helping the other team up from the floor? JMO
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Not sure where it was discussed about the whole UK not playing any Wednesday games prior to Saturday, but this stat is even more astonishing...

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Wow....hard to believe that was an accident. The some 3 some 2 times makes sense, someone has to play those days, but it sure seems like there is some preferential treatment going on.
 
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walkenvol said:
There’s a time and a place for everything. During live play would not be the time I would want my players helping the other team up from the floor? JMO
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It’s like coach said, first and foremost he’s trying to raise good men. That’s proof he’s doing it right. Have no problem with it.
 
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walkenvol said:
There’s a time and a place for everything. During live play would not be the time I would want my players helping the other team up from the floor? JMO
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Maybe he was holding him down to keep him out of play.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Not sure where it was discussed about the whole UK not playing any Wednesday games prior to Saturday, but this stat is even more astonishing...

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I think this is a total non problem and way over analyzed. You play every Saturday with a game in between on either Tue or Wed. Woopdy-doo. Either way you have two full days off and three full days off on either side of the mid week game.
 
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ZZ13 said:
I think this is a total non problem and way over analyzed. You play every Saturday with a game in between on either Tue or Wed. Woopdy-doo. Either way you have two full days off and three full days off on either side of the mid week game.
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Yes, but you gain no advantage over an opponent during the midweek game, regardless of when it's played, because all teams play on Saturday.

So, if Tennessee plays on Saturday, so did Vandy. Therefore, regardless of whether Tennessee played them on Tuesday or Wednesday, neither had an advantage because they both had the same layoff. On the back end though, Tennessee played on Tuesday, and LSU on Wednesday. Now Tennessee has an extra day of prep/rest over LSU.

And so, you think to yourself, hmmm...okay that happens a couple times in a season, and it's not really a big deal. But, when it happens that way each and every week because UK plays EVERY single Tuesday, and their following Saturday opponent ALWAYS plays on Wednesday, now they have that advantage each and every week.

That is, at best, suspicious.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Yes, but you gain no advantage over an opponent during the midweek game, regardless of when it's played, because all teams play on Saturday.

So, if Tennessee plays on Saturday, so did Vandy. Therefore, regardless of whether Tennessee played them on Tuesday or Wednesday, neither had an advantage because they both had the same layoff. On the back end though, Tennessee played on Tuesday, and LSU on Wednesday. Now Tennessee has an extra day of prep/rest over LSU.

And so, you think to yourself, hmmm...okay that happens a couple times in a season, and it's not really a big deal. But, when it happens that way each and every week because UK plays EVERY single Tuesday, and their following Saturday opponent ALWAYS plays on Wednesday, now they have that advantage each and every week.

That is, at best, suspicious.
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I think in any one given week it might not be significant, but over the course of an entire sec season it certainly makes some kind of difference.
 
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golfballs said:
I think in any one given week it might not be significant, but over the course of an entire sec season it certainly makes some kind of difference.
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Exactly. As an isolated incident or two, no big deal. But over 2.5 months, when you already have the talent edge over the entire conference, there has to be a payoff for that extra day. Especially later in the season and against teams that are more familiar with your schemes and tendencies.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Exactly. As an isolated incident or two, no big deal. But over 2.5 months, when you already have the talent edge over the entire conference, there has to be a payoff for that extra day. Especially later in the season and against teams that are more familiar with your schemes and tendencies.
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ESPN Stats team in developing their BPI model found that days of rest is a statistically-significant determinant in predicting game outcomes, they factor it in to their forecasts. There’s clearly some data to back that up. Would be curious to know over the course of the conference schedule how many wins that equates to. I’ve talked to a guy who does some of that analysis. I might forward him that tweet and see if he can answer that.
 
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Good points everyone. So why do you think Kentucky plays all their weekday games on Tuesday and always has a day extra rest on Saturday? Why is it only being brought up here and not by some ace investigative reporter?
 
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ZZ13 said:
Good points everyone. So why do you think Kentucky plays all their weekday games on Tuesday and always has a day extra rest on Saturday? Why is it only being brought up here and not by some ace investigative reporter?
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The biggest advantage is consistency in schedule. Same rest, practices, classes, therapy. Same routine every week
 
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ZZ13 said:
Good points everyone. So why do you think Kentucky plays all their weekday games on Tuesday and always has a day extra rest on Saturday? Why is it only being brought up here and not by some ace investigative reporter?
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bleedingTNorange said:
Not sure where it was discussed about the whole UK not playing any Wednesday games prior to Saturday, but this stat is even more astonishing...

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I think it is being discussed now. Aside from that, no one is skirting the rules, and frankly, the SEC has plausible deniability. All they have to do is claim it was never intentional and that it was done for TV ratings.
 
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Ace said:
I am going to stop posting in the game thread. Good grief, many of the posters cannot be Vol fans. It is on par with the FF. Maybe they just migrate over
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Made that decision years ago. Best choice you'll make in a long time. The manics and hand wringers use it as a place to post their every unfiltered thought.
 
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My seeding as of today

1: Duke, Gonzaga, Virginia, Kentucky

2: Michigan, UNC, Michigan State, Tennessee
 
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