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chuckiepoo said:
Sounds like he found the door to the doghouse… 🤙🏼
Now, resume your earned role on the floor!
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Not sure what transpired but sounds like a conversation occurred where CRB gave him feedback to the effect that he wasn't applying himself and playing consistently enough to warrant the playing time Carr expects/hopes for. Maybe @Stoerner Fumbles or @bleedingTNorange can provide some context.
 
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If you remember, RB was in the grill of DK on this same topic ... DK worked hard and got progressively better on the defensive end.
Surprising to think that Mashack is playing the 4 a lot. Interesting opportunity for the young man.
I believe we should keep an eye on Lanier and Mashack going forward .. those guys are going to be the guys who stir the drink ... I'm not discounting ZZ or overlooking Okpara ... I am viewing those guys as steady contributors.
It is going to look good and equally bad for the first third of the season till the team gels ... then we will know what the ceiling looks like.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Not sure what transpired but sounds like a conversation occurred where CRB gave him feedback to the effect that he wasn't applying himself and playing consistently enough to warrant the playing time Carr expects/hopes for. Maybe @Stoerner Fumbles or @bleedingTNorange can provide some context.
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It’s the time of year where Rick pushes players harder. There’s no crisis with Carr. He’s a team favorite and gets by on personality and raw talent. Barnes just made it clear to him a couple of weeks ago that he wasn’t going to play if he didn’t play within the system at both ends. He’s made big jumps on offense and commitment. He still has a tendency to lash out when he loses his man on defense or misses a switch. He ends up fouling trying to recover. Dubar has been really down and has a situation at home amplifying that. You have to feel for the kid. He just hasn’t found a way to make a dent yet. After the scrimmage loss, the team has been very detail oriented, has tightened the lineup and has put a lot of time in on big to big passing inside. ZZ has also been very vocal and not letting anyone off the hook on lazy cuts and screens. I think the loss has been a good motivator for the team. Estrella may be significantly closer to full strength than anyone expected. He played quite a bit over the last week, and seemed not to slow down or favor his foot. Prior to the injury, he was a big focus on the offense. It will be great if he can continue to recover without setbacks. Excited for real competition next week.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
It’s the time of year where Rick pushes players harder. There’s no crisis with Carr. He’s a team favorite and gets by on personality and raw talent. Barnes just made it clear to him a couple of weeks ago that he wasn’t going to play if he didn’t play within the system at both ends. He’s made big jumps on offense and commitment. He still has a tendency to lash out when he loses his man on defense or misses a switch. He ends up fouling trying to recover. Dubar has been really down and has a situation at home amplifying that. You have to feel for the kid. He just hasn’t found a way to make a dent yet. After the scrimmage loss, the team has been very detail oriented, has tightened the lineup and has put a lot of time in on big to big passing inside. ZZ has also been very vocal and not letting anyone off the hook on lazy cuts and screens. I think the loss has been a good motivator for the team. Estrella may be significantly closer to full strength than anyone expected. He played quite a bit over the last week, and seemed not to slow down or favor his foot. Prior to the injury, he was a big focus on the offense. It will be great if he can continue to recover without setbacks. Excited for real competition next week.
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Bet Barnes in a sense didn't mind the exhibition loss if team needed a shot in the arm to get them re-focused. Stinks for Dubar and maybe he can stay engaged and things turn around at some point. If not Cades going to have a lot of opportunities this year.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
After the scrimmage loss, the team has been very detail oriented, has tightened the lineup and has put a lot of time in on big to big passing inside. ZZ has also been very vocal and not letting anyone off the hook on lazy cuts and screens. I think the loss has been a good motivator for the team.
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A loss from the scrimmage was, in hindsight, 10x better for the team than a win imo.

Hope there are multiple guys that start to play to their potential… especially Carr and Estrella. This team has the potential to be really good.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
It’s the time of year where Rick pushes players harder. There’s no crisis with Carr. He’s a team favorite and gets by on personality and raw talent. Barnes just made it clear to him a couple of weeks ago that he wasn’t going to play if he didn’t play within the system at both ends. He’s made big jumps on offense and commitment. He still has a tendency to lash out when he loses his man on defense or misses a switch. He ends up fouling trying to recover. Dubar has been really down and has a situation at home amplifying that. You have to feel for the kid. He just hasn’t found a way to make a dent yet. After the scrimmage loss, the team has been very detail oriented, has tightened the lineup and has put a lot of time in on big to big passing inside. ZZ has also been very vocal and not letting anyone off the hook on lazy cuts and screens. I think the loss has been a good motivator for the team. Estrella may be significantly closer to full strength than anyone expected. He played quite a bit over the last week, and seemed not to slow down or favor his foot. Prior to the injury, he was a big focus on the offense. It will be great if he can continue to recover without setbacks. Excited for real competition next week.
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That's what I suspected...great to hear he is increasing his focus and intensity. We really need Estrella to be a threat on offense when he comes in and consistently give us points off the bench in the paint. We really need the combo of Okpara and Estrella to give us 18 or more points each night along with 12+ rebounds imo. Not surprised ZZ is demanding 110% - what a luxury for CRB and staff to have that kind of player.

Sux to hear about Dubar - pulling for him to figure things out. I assume this is why we are hearing reports of Mashack at the 4.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
That's what I suspected...great to hear he is increasing his focus and intensity. We really need Estrella to be a threat on offense when he comes in and consistently give us points off the bench in the paint. We really need the combo of Okpara and Estrella to give us 18 or more points each night along with 12+ rebounds imo. Not surprised ZZ is demanding 110% - what a luxury for CRB and staff to have that kind of player.

Sux to hear about Dubar - pulling for him to figure things out. I assume this is why we are hearing reports of Mashack at the 4.
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Mashak at the 4 is still surprising. I wasn’t expecting much from dubar after the summer reports but I was expecting Igor and Cade to get most of the minutes at 4.

Mashak can definitely guard the 4 though. I think we even had him guarding 5s some last year. Just doesn’t seem like the best use of his abilities unless the other 4 is just killing us and also isn’t a giant.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
Mashak at the 4 is still surprising. I wasn’t expecting much from dubar after the summer reports but I was expecting Igor and Cade to get most of the minutes at 4.

Mashak can definitely guard the 4 though. I think we even had him guarding 5s some last year. Just doesn’t seem like the best use of his abilities unless the other 4 is just killing us and also isn’t a giant.
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Agree it would be best if Dubar could be our small ball 4 and allow Mashack to stay at 3. Dubar however seems to be really struggling on and off the court atm based on reports. Hopefully his situation will improve and he can provide some help esp on offense (from 3-pt line for scoring and spacing if nothing else).
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
Mashak at the 4 is still surprising. I wasn’t expecting much from dubar after the summer reports but I was expecting Igor and Cade to get most of the minutes at 4.

Mashak can definitely guard the 4 though. I think we even had him guarding 5s some last year. Just doesn’t seem like the best use of his abilities unless the other 4 is just killing us and also isn’t a giant.
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Versatility, Mashack gives you tons of it as he can guard 1-5 depending on the player, and major lineup versatile considering Igor can offensively play 2-5. Too early to make too crazy of definitive statements, but barring injury it sure seems like…

IMO Zeigler, Gainey, Lanier, Mashack, Igor, Okpara & Estrella will be your main 7 and there’s versatility within that group to play big or small. Carr, Dubar & Phillips will all compete for minutes behind those 7 imo.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
Mashak at the 4 is still surprising. I wasn’t expecting much from dubar after the summer reports but I was expecting Igor and Cade to get most of the minutes at 4.

Mashak can definitely guard the 4 though. I think we even had him guarding 5s some last year. Just doesn’t seem like the best use of his abilities unless the other 4 is just killing us and also isn’t a giant.
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Post-game Barnes noted that the Mashack at the 4 was a line up experiment that we likely wouldn't see in the regular season. Said he liked the exhibition games because he could do things like that, and he wished they could have a couple more exhibition games every year just for experiments.
 
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