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[larjoranj]

I can see why Barnes was on him. That was a really poor decision and even worse execution.

I don't think he was open at all. When his right foot lands to be able to shoot he has 1 man with a hand in his face and another man literally has his hand on Lanier's side. I don't care if it was a play Barnes drew up - it wasn't open - and he shouldn't have shot it. He did make a bad pass though if Barnes wants to criticize him for that

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I don't think he was open at all. When his right foot lands to be able to shoot he has 1 man with a hand in his face and another man literally has his hand on Lanier's side. I don't care if it was a play Barnes drew up - it wasn't open - and he shouldn't have shot it. He did make a bad pass though if Barnes wants to criticize him for that

The issue is if you draw up a play for a shot and the other 4 guys are expecting the player to shoot they're going to position themselves to crash the boards. It wasn't a clean look by any means, but because the team was expecting Chaz to take the shot him not doing so created the turnover.

Had the pass been better it likely doesn't result in Barnes pulling him.

 

[rocketskates]

Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but why are we such a big favorite tomorrow against Georgia? I agree that we should win the game, but they've beaten two ranked teams back to back, one of which was Kentucky. I get that it's at home, but still...

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but why are we such a big favorite tomorrow against Georgia? I agree that we should win the game, but they've beaten two ranked teams back to back, one of which was Kentucky. I get that it's at home, but still...

Not sure the odds makers are "buying" Georgia yet. They're SOS is pretty bad, but I think it'll probably be a tough one. They are coming off wins against Kentucky and OU.

They've just not really shown to be as good away from Stegeman Coliseum. They're 3-2 so far away from home and only 1 win was a true road game (at Georgia Tech). The 2 losses were at Ole Miss and against Marquette on neutral court though so not like they've really had any bad showings yet.

They are a very young/inexperienced team though...they could fold up or they could play like they don't know how difficult TBA is to win at. Will be interesting, them having the 2nd best scoring defense in the SEC might make it a slugfest for us if we struggle shooting.

 

[rocketskates]

Not sure the odds makers are "buying" Georgia yet. They're SOS is pretty bad, but I think it'll probably be a tough one. They are coming off wins against Kentucky and OU.

They've just not really shown to be as good away from Stegeman Coliseum. They're 3-2 so far away from home and only 1 win was a true road game (at Georgia Tech). The 2 losses were at Ole Miss and against Marquette on neutral court though so not like they've really had any bad showings yet.

They are a very young/inexperienced team though...they could fold up or they could play like they don't know how difficult TBA is to win at. Will be interesting, them having the 2nd best scoring defense in the SEC might make it a slugfest for us if we struggle shooting.

Appreciate it!

 

[VolCalls]

It looks as if AP voters just look at which teams won or lost each week and just adjust their votes accordingly. There's some adjustment for strength of opponent, mainly if their ranked or unranked, but there's barely any analytics taken into account, compared to KenPom or BartTovik.

AP polling appears to be more of a trending index than an actual indicator of the "best teams" in college basketball.

100% agree - and the reason the NCAA Selection Committee doesn't rely on them when selecting & seeding the field in March.

 

[VolCalls]

Just for discussion, Louisville and UNC are close (Louisville is higher in the NET) and Louisville beat UNC (why I mentioned it). Arkansas is higher than Creighton in the NET and only a few spots behind in KenPom. Texas is higher than OU in the NET. It’s why I looked at multiple indexes and what the committee uses. OU’s OOC schedule wasn’t exactly stellar. I did the deep dive and why I surmised that Alabama’s wins were not all that off from ours.

Fair enough. In any event, the deciding factor was obviously the beatdown we took last week while Alabama has won eight straight, including @ A&M, and has the #2 SOS in the country (KenPom).

 

[berryvol]

Maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but why are we such a big favorite tomorrow against Georgia? I agree that we should win the game, but they've beaten two ranked teams back to back, one of which was Kentucky. I get that it's at home, but still...

I haven’t seen any odds/spread posted by a book for the game yet. I’d guess we open around 14-15 point favorites though, based off KP and home court.

 

[The Dog]

I haven’t seen any odds/spread posted by a book for the game yet. I’d guess we open around 14-15 point favorites though, based off KP and home court.

-13.5, by The Dog's Line. Over/Under 143.5

 

[The Dog]

-11.5 and O/U 132.5 on Vegas Insider, but DraftKings doesn't have an early line

 

[volsarelife1]

Best semester GPA in program history!

 

[The Dog]

Best semester GPA in program history!

I'm not surprised, Barnes has built a well rounded program, on and off the court.

 

[larjoranj]

The issue is if you draw up a play for a shot and the other 4 guys are expecting the player to shoot they're going to position themselves to crash the boards. It wasn't a clean look by any means, but because the team was expecting Chaz to take the shot him not doing so created the turnover.

Had the pass been better it likely doesn't result in Barnes pulling him.

4 players were outside the 3 point line when he went up and passed the ball - they weren't crashing the boards. Only Okpara was in rebounding position. Not taking the shot didn't cause the turnover - Mashack was looking directly at Lanier when he passed the ball and was ready to catch it. It was just 5 feet over his head.