The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

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dillyo51 said:
$600, CCW and house.
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Glock 19, Smith & Wesson M&P compact, H&K VP9, Sig 320 compact.

Nothing in a caliber other than 9mm.

Try each if possible. Make sure they fit both you and your wife's hands. Buy good ammo. Enjoy.
 
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I'm thinking of trading a remington 700 .270, monte carlo laminated stock and a scope for a mini 30, 2 stocks, and 6 clips. Should I be talking myself into it or out of it?
 
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dillyo51 said:
What gun brand and caliber would be recommended by you knowledgeable gun owners for a first time gun buyer? Purpose would be for self and family protection. TIA
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The only recommendation I can make is a revolver. Ruger makes a lcr in a .38. Very easy trigger pull and simple to operate. The last thing you want your wife to worry about when your away and someone is climbing in your window at 2am is "how does this automatic work again".
 
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kentucky sucks said:
The only recommendation I can make is a revolver. Ruger makes a lcr in a .38. Very easy trigger pull and simple to operate. The last thing you want your wife to worry about when your away and someone is climbing in your window at 2am is "how does this automatic work again".
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Couldn't disagree more. A wheel gun is stupid proof and a point and click interface, but with proper training (as the wife should have) the advantage of a revolver goes away.

Proper training for ALL the members of the household in weapons safety, handling and firing is paramount. And the revolver vs automatic debate is moot after that.
 
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I'll disagree further by stating that a snub nose revolver such as the ruger LCR are expert guns to an extent. You have minimal barrel length and minimal sights with a heavy double action trigger pull.

I always laugh when I see guys buy their wives a snubby, usually with a pink grip, and proceed to call her armed. She may go to the range a time or two with it, but she's clearly not ready to use it proficiently. To each their own though.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I'll disagree further by stating that a snub nose revolver such as the ruger LCR are expert guns to an extent. You have minimal barrel length and minimal sights with a heavy double action trigger pull.

I always laugh when I see guys buy their wives a snubby, usually with a pink grip, and proceed to call her armed. She may go to the range a time or two with it, but she's clearly not ready to use it proficiently. To each their own though.
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Don't you own revolvers?

So obviously some girls can handle them... :p
 
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WallyBalls said:
Played with both, had an SR45 (and an SR9C for a while). I'll defer on the Springfield to someone who owns one. I liked it, though.

The SR45 was a typical Ruger to me. Good, maybe not great, in almost every way, but wasn't picky and was super reliable.
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That's what I was hoping for with the ruger, just a tough reliable gun I love my other rugers
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Say what you will, most do their ladies a great disservice when it comes to guns.
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Completely agree. And nothing infuriates me more than to see some ****tard on YouTube giving a large caliber handgun, rifle or shotgun to a woman that has little or no training in firearms handling. Then laughing as they get a blast to a shoulder or get hit in the face.

I'd just as soon give them a swift kick in the balls for being a misogynistic a-hole and turning what could be an ally in the fight for gun rights into someone who wouldn't even look at a gun.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I'll disagree further by stating that a snub nose revolver such as the ruger LCR are expert guns to an extent. You have minimal barrel length and minimal sights with a heavy double action trigger pull.

I always laugh when I see guys buy their wives a snubby, usually with a pink grip, and proceed to call her armed. She may go to the range a time or two with it, but she's clearly not ready to use it proficiently. To each their own though.
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You're crazy if you think that people actually take time to sight down a barrel when they're frightened. It's a grab and pull. You're usually shooting within 10ft so barrel length doesn't matter. Automatics are great until you get a cartridge to stove pipe. I keep a .38 by the bed. The wife knows how to use it. Low recoil. Simple. If a round doesn't fire keep pulling the trigger. Keep it simple!
 
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Grand Vol said:
Completely agree. And nothing infuriates me more than to see some ****tard on YouTube giving a large caliber handgun, rifle or shotgun to a woman that has little or no training in firearms handling. Then laughing as they get a blast to a shoulder or get hit in the face.

I'd just as soon give them a swift kick in the balls for being a misogynistic a-hole and turning what could be an ally in the fight for gun rights into someone who wouldn't even look at a gun.
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Yep, what they've essentially done is instill a fear of guns in her mind.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
You're crazy if you think that people actually take time to sight down a barrel when they're frightened. It's a grab and pull. You're usually shooting within 10ft so barrel length doesn't matter. Automatics are great until you get a cartridge to stove pipe. I keep a .38 by the bed. The wife knows how to use it. Low recoil. Simple. If a round doesn't fire keep pulling the trigger. Keep it simple!
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How often do automatics stovepipe? That's a training issue or an ammo issue. Both of which are easily rectified.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
You're crazy if you think that people actually take time to sight down a barrel when they're frightened. It's a grab and pull. You're usually shooting within 10ft so barrel length doesn't matter. Automatics are great until you get a cartridge to stove pipe. I keep a .38 by the bed. The wife knows how to use it. Low recoil. Simple. If a round doesn't fire keep pulling the trigger. Keep it simple!
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Ok, as I said, to each their own. Would you trust your wife to make a head shot at 10 yards with that gun, if your life was on the line? keep it simple remember...
 
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Grand Vol said:
How often do automatics stovepipe? That's a training issue or an ammo issue. Both of which are easily rectified.
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Exactly. It's all about the response to the malfunction.

Stovepipes aren't a problem, double feeds on the other hand.... They are difficult, but not anything to panic over.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Exactly. It's all about the response to the malfunction.

Stovepipes aren't a problem, double feeds on the other hand.... They are difficult, but not anything to panic over.
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Even double feeds with most high quality modern pistols isn't a huge concern. Unless you're using some garbage like Promag. Most factory mags will be fine or aftermarket pistol mags like Mec Gar or Wilson are completely reliable.

But also remembering mags are expendable items and should be rotated/replaced after a certain point in their life cycle.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Even double feeds with most high quality modern pistols isn't a huge concern. Unless you're using some garbage like Promag. Most factory mags will be fine or aftermarket pistol mags like Mec Gar or Wilson are completely reliable.

But also remembering mags are expendable items and should be rotated/replaced after a certain point in their life cycle.
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I agree completely. At the end of the day, our guns are tools. Tools work best when they're looked after appropriately.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Tools work best when they're looked after appropriately.
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That's...not always the case.

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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Ok, as I said, to each their own. Would you trust your wife to make a head shot at 10 yards with that gun, if your life was on the line? keep it simple remember...
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Please tell me you don't teach people to try head shots on intruders. Center mass is what I teach. Keep it simple. Leave the head shots to the pros, but...to each his own.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
Please tell me you don't teach people to try head shots on intruders. Center mass is what I teach. Keep it simple. Leave the head shots to the pros, but...to each his own.
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It's situational dependent. If a burglar has you by the throat at gun point and your wife is standing there with a 5 shot smith in her hand with her body alarm response going through the roof, do you trust her to make a head shot to save your life? If she don't, you're dead, and so is she most likely. That's the point I was making.
These things happen. Why not train for them and be prepared for them when they do. Don't just say, well that's out of my wheelhouse, I better not try. Train, train, and train some more. You never know when **** will go bad and you'll be called upon to make a shot that will save someone's life. Remember, when seconds count, the police are minutes away. Also remember, most cops can't shoot. Now, who do you want to take the shot?
 
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