The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

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kentucky sucks said:
Please tell me you don't teach people to try head shots on intruders. Center mass is what I teach. Keep it simple. Leave the head shots to the pros, but...to each his own.
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My thoughts are you should train for accurate shot. Teach center mass, but training for the accuracy in certain situations you'll be prepared. If you continue the same practice, instincts take over. I'm not sure any situation is a pull a shoot like you stated earlier. But, in a situation that takes speed you'll be prepared enough to where your instincts for an accurate show take over while still maintaining the speed you need.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
Please tell me you don't teach people to try head shots on intruders. Center mass is what I teach. Keep it simple. Leave the head shots to the pros, but...to each his own.
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I'm hitting about 7/10 head shots on the small silhouettes from 10 yards with my Glock 17 now. My goal is 10/10 of course.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It's situational dependent. If a burglar has you by the throat at gun point and your wife is standing there with a 5 shot smith in her hand with her body alarm response going through the roof, do you trust her to make a head shot to save your life? If she don't, you're dead, and so is she most likely. That's the point I was making.
These things happen. Why not train for them and be prepared for them when they do. Don't just say, well that's out of my wheelhouse, I better not try. Train, train, and train some more. You never know when **** will go bad and you'll be called upon to make a shot that will save someone's life. Remember, when seconds count, the police are minutes away. Also remember, most cops can't shoot. Now, who do you want to take the shot?
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I'll agree that things are situational dependent. I will take a sure bet any day of the week. I've shot tens of thousands of rounds and several of those with an auto. I've had lots of rounds hang up in said autos. It's the nature of the beast. More moving parts, more chance of a potential problem. Mechanics 101.

That being said, the only problem I can ever recall with a wheel gun was when I was a kid and was shooting some old turd ball ammo and a couple of rounds didn't go off. All I had to do was keep squeezing the trigger and the next shot was there. I trust my .38 Smith to protect my family. Sure, I have several autos but thats the one I'll bet my life on that it will fire when I pull the trigger.

All I'm preaching is reliability and simplicity. Let's just agree to disagree.
 
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Sandvol said:
I'm hitting about 7/10 head shots on the small silhouettes from 10 yards with my Glock 17 now. My goal is 10/10 of course.
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Thats great. Now jack the silhouettes up on pcp and arm them and put them your bedroom as you're waking up from REM sleep in a pitch dark room. Nobody is thinking about a head shot.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Ok, as I said, to each their own. Would you trust your wife to make a head shot at 10 yards with that gun, if your life was on the line? keep it simple remember...
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head shot at 10 yards in that situation, would be pretty hard for most

I've had limited experience with women shooters, (sister, niece, ex-wife, and now my daughter), but I've started with a revolver with all of them, due to the simplicity, then once their proficiency and experience improved moved to semi-automatics and larger calibers
 
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Grand Vol said:
How often do automatics stovepipe? That's a training issue or an ammo issue. Both of which are easily rectified.
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I've shot quite a few rounds in my day, and I've yet to have a malfunction I couldn't fix within a couple of seconds.

Most of the time in my experience, it's the ammo. You get what you pay for.
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
I've shot quite a few rounds in my day, and I've yet to have a malfunction I couldn't fix within a couple of seconds.

Most of the time in my experience, it's the ammo. You get what you pay for.
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I guess a burglar will allow you a 2 second timeout to get your gun unjammed.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
I guess a burger will allow you a 2 second timeout to get your gun unjammed.
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Or, as I've stated all along, proper training comes into play and you clear it in far less time.

If it takes two seconds to clear a malfunction, that's a training deficiency. If your firearms continually malfunctions with a particular type of ammo, that's an ammo issue and try something else. If you firearm malfunctions constantly, it's either broken or a cheap POS. Both of which are easily rectified by getting it fixed or buying quality.
 
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I really need to stay away from the gun store. Smith and Wesson model 29-2 .44 magnum. Minty
I've never owned a nickel plated firearm before. Any tips on caring for it?
 
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Looking to buy my first gun. Any suggestions on what type of gun to get or where to buy from? I've seen sites with the same guns that are about 200 dollars difference in price. If there is any place you buy from online regularly(or locally that will ship) with good prices, let me know. This is what I've been looking at...





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TOP said:
Looking to buy my first gun. Any suggestions on what type of gun to get or where to buy from? I've seen sites with the same guns that are about 200 dollars difference in price. If there is any place you buy from online regularly(or locally that will ship) with good prices, let me know. This is what I've been looking at...





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That CZ is a fine firearm. What will you be doing with it? Carrying, home defense? Poke around on gunbroker.com any seller can ship to your gun store as long as you send them a copy of the gunstore's ffl.

There is also buds gun shop online, as well as kygunco.com they're all pretty good. Good luck.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
That CZ is a fine firearm. What will you be doing with it? Carrying, home defense? Poke around on gunbroker.com any seller can ship to your gun store as long as you send them a copy of the gunstore's ffl.

There is also buds gun shop online, as well as kygunco.com they're all pretty good. Good luck.
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Just home defense basically and take it to shooting ranges from time to time for something to do. I doubt I'll be carrying it around. The place I live isn't bad but I could see it getting worse. A lot of Chicago is moving here and shootings have been increasing over the years as more and more people come from Chicago for low income housing and all that good stuff. Thanks for the sites, I'll check them out. I was also looking at the streamlight tlr-2 laser/light sight to go with it. What are your thoughts on sights? I noticed it said this gun has night sights I believe. But for defense purposes, wouldn't a laser be a good option? I've seen some that have lasers on the side too. I don't know, it's like a candy store but with guns.
 
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TOP said:
Just home defense basically and take it to shooting ranges from time to time for something to do. I doubt I'll be carrying it around. The place I live isn't bad but I could see it getting worse. A lot of Chicago is moving here and shootings have been increasing over the years as more and more people come from Chicago for low income housing and all that good stuff. Thanks for the sites, I'll check them out. I was also looking at the streamlight tlr-2 laser/light sight to go with it. What are your thoughts on sights? I noticed it said this gun has night sights I believe. But for defense purposes, wouldn't a laser be a good option? I've seen some that have lasers on the side too. I don't know, it's like a candy store but with guns.
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Lasers are ok, they are a personal preference. If you get the pistol, and think a laser will solve a problem for you, go for it. I've found that a lot of people are actually slower with a laser, they have trouble tracking the dot. That CZ is a great firearm though. They also make a model with a manual safety, instead of a decocker. Decockers are ok, as long as you remember to decock them when reholstering.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
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Don't use a solvent on it
I believe they make a paste and cloth to use that's really good
I don't have any first hand experience, as I've never owned a nickel gun before
With that thing you'll be big pumpin, make sure you get a "BBQ" holster to wear it in
 
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vol_in_ar said:
Don't use a solvent on it
I believe they make a paste and cloth to use that's really good
I don't have any first hand experience, as I've never owned a nickel gun before
With that thing you'll be big pumpin, make sure you get a "BBQ" holster to wear it in
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I did some reading and found that renaissance wax is supposed to be the best thing to use. I'll give it a go, and see what's what.

I've got my milt sparks leather all ready for the shiny beast. Cheers for the info.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Lasers are ok, they are a personal preference. If you get the pistol, and think a laser will solve a problem for you, go for it. I've found that a lot of people are actually slower with a laser, they have trouble tracking the dot. That CZ is a great firearm though. They also make a model with a manual safety, instead of a decocker. Decockers are ok, as long as you remember to decock them when reholstering.
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I'll second DTH's thoughts on the laser. It's a nifty toy, but nothing beats a good three dot system. A laser, IMO, is a crutch that doesn't help overall accuracy. And what happens when it fails? Not if, but when. It can cause you to hesitate instead of lining up the sights when microseconds count.

The Streamlight TLR-1 will serve you well as a weapon mounted light. But I'd leave the laser in Hollywood where it belongs.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'll second DTH's thoughts on the laser. It's a nifty toy, but nothing beats a good three dot system. A laser, IMO, is a crutch that doesn't help overall accuracy. And what happens when it fails? Not if, but when. It can cause you to hesitate instead of lining up the sights when microseconds count.

The Streamlight TLR-1 will serve you well as a weapon mounted light. But I'd leave the laser in Hollywood where it belongs.
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Indeed, I agree with everything GV has to say here. The only real world use I see for a laser is possibly an older person who's eye sight is gone nearly. Then, maybe, use a laser. Even then it's iffy. It's Hollywood stuff mostly.

Weapon mounted lights solve a problem. They illuminate the target. They do not take the place of a handheld light though. You don't want to be pointing your muzzle at things when you just want to use a light.

Any lights from streamlight or surefire will be good to go. Stay away from the cheap bargain lights, they will shat the bed when you need them the most.

The most important thing about being a new gun owner is understanding it's a lifestyle change. Attend a class, even a nra safety class. Get a good working knowledge of guns and gun handling. It will give you good footing on which to get started. Cheers
 
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Something I've really been thinking about a lot lately. I assume most of us in this thread carry a gun most every day. These are life saving, as well as life taking tools. I have been really wondering about less lethal devices, like pepper spray or even a stun gun. As not every situation calls for us to whip out our roscoe.

Do any of you carry any such devices? If so, which ones?

Also, medical. If we are sending rounds, there is a good chance rounds are coming back. I've had it preached to me for years to at least carry an ankle medical kit, but never have. Again, these are life saving as well as life taking devices. Winning the fight is one thing, watching your friend or loved one bleed out because you didn't take a medical course is quite another. Any recommendations on a good medical kit?
 
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