The Official Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist Thread

#876
#876
n_huffhines said:
Right, no consequences to actions because there is no government. No matter how many potential consequences I spell out, you respond as if there are no consequences. Stop wasting my time.
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I just pointed out a consequence, and you didn't like it so you hide. Your guys come and kidnap my CEO in the middle of the night, and I am supposed to do nothing about it? Nope. YOUR action is going to garner a response. A real nasty one.

You don't like the response because it doesn't fit your paradigm of everybody playing nice..... Funny thing is that it is you that isn't playing nice in that scenario, and when it gets escalated, you cry foul. Real world doesn't work that way.
 
#878
#878
hog88 said:
A large portion of our population can't afford food without, yep you guessed it, government support. When the cost of food goes even higher due to AnCap, which ends government subsidies, how are they going to afford security?
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Free markets make things cheaper. Food will be cheaper. Government subsidizes certain types of food, but it also makes every kind of food more expensive with regulation, tariffs, etc.

Food will be cheaper if you remove government. Everyone will be fed if you remove government. We don't let people starve because we are good, not because government is the only body that cares. Government is a reflection of us, and it's a lazy answer for helping the poor. There will be societal devices in place for taking care of the poor, with or without government. They exist in the face of government, so why wouldn't you expect more?
 
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#879
SpaceCoastVol said:
Not really. My parents ran a 5 and dime store in a small town in KY for 25 years. Until WAL came into town. They couldn't compete. Neither could the shoe store or the clothing store or several other small businesses that ringed the classic small town "square". Now that square is ringed with boarded up storefronts and thrift stores. Your point is asinine and void of clue about the effect WAL has had on small town America. I have seen it first hand, and my parents lived it.
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Hell I live in Sumner county, not exactly small town USA and options outside of big box stores are almost nonexistent.
 
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#881
#881
n_huffhines said:
Free markets make things cheaper. Food will be cheaper. Government subsidizes certain types of food, but it also makes every kind of food more expensive with regulation, tariffs, etc.

Food will be cheaper if you remove government. Everyone will be fed if you remove government. We don't let people starve because we are good, not because government is the only body that cares. Government is a reflection of us, and it's a lazy answer for helping the poor. There will be societal devices in place for taking care of the poor, with or without government. They exist in the face of government, so why wouldn't you expect more?
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And WAL will make protection agencies cheaper.
 
#882
#882
SpaceCoastVol said:
Not surprising, you missed the point... again.
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Your point is that you wanna cry about your parents and blame Wal Mart for being better than them.

The underlying point, which you are missing, is that even big bad Wal-Mart has competitors to deal with, which means we have alternatives.
 
#884
#884
SpaceCoastVol said:
I just pointed out a consequence, and you didn't like it so you hide. Your guys come and kidnap my CEO in the middle of the night, and I am supposed to do nothing about it? Nope. YOUR action is going to garner a response. A real nasty one.

You don't like the response because it doesn't fit your paradigm of everybody playing nice..... Funny thing is that it is you that isn't playing nice in that scenario, and when it gets escalated, you cry foul. Real world doesn't work that way.
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If I'm 2nd in command, I'm going to slaughter him, his people and my CEO. Win, win for me. I take out the competition and gain control. :)
 
#885
#885
hog88 said:
None of our problems are caused by government! They are caused by the people we elect to run our government!

If the majority of people do such a piss poor job in selecting leadership which costs nothing? What on earth gives you the idea that the majority of people would hire the right firms and pay directly out of their pockets?
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People are a lot better at using their money in their best interest then they are at voting for their best interest. That's an easy question.
 
#886
#886
n_huffhines said:
Free markets make things cheaper. Food will be cheaper. Government subsidizes certain types of food, but it also makes every kind of food more expensive with regulation, tariffs, etc.

Food will be cheaper if you remove government. Everyone will be fed if you remove government. We don't let people starve because we are good, not because government is the only body that cares. Government is a reflection of us, and it's a lazy answer for helping the poor. There will be societal devices in place for taking care of the poor, with or without government. They exist in the face of government, so why wouldn't you expect more?
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Holy shizz batman. Poor people were starving for centuries before strong central governments. We humans are not inherently good when it comes to sacrificing for others.

History is a good lesson.
 
#887
#887
n_huffhines said:
Your point is that you wanna cry about your parents and blame Wal Mart for being better than them.

The underlying point, which you are missing, is that even big bad Wal-Mart has competitors to deal with, which means we have alternatives.
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I don't have time this morning to explain this to you, but I will leave it at this point and tell you that you are flat our wrong for the most part. There is SOME competition, but not what you think. And that "competition" is one week... one bad Christmas... away from bankruptcy. WAL can bleed a LOT to kill their competition. The other way does not work. QOL for those left standing has diminished exponentially. My father went from being fairly successful to bankruptcy. Those that didn't, had to downsize... considerably. If that is your version of utopia, then you are winning
 
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#888
#888
n_huffhines said:
People are a lot better at using their money in their best interest then they are at voting for their best interest. That's an easy question.
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You don't get out much do you?

If this was the case welfare would be unneeded. The majority of Americans are complete idiots with their money hence the mass amounts of personal debt. I suppose you support the return of debtors prison?
 
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#889
#889
I've come to the conclusion that AnCap might be a perfectly viable societal model for Vulcans. For humans as I see them on the news and historically speaking...not so much.
 
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#890
#890
hog88 said:
Holy shizz batman. Poor people were starving for centuries before strong central governments. We humans are not inherently good when it comes to sacrificing for others.

History is a good lesson.
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Before strong central governments? Strong central governments have been a theme throughout history.

We have the ability to feed everyone because of the economics involved. Technology, transportation, communication, etc. has all made feeding the world feasible. It has nothing to do with government.
 
#891
#891
hog88 said:
You don't get out much do you?

If this was the case welfare would be unneeded. The majority of Americans are complete idiots with their money hence the mass amounts of personal debt. I suppose you support the return of debtors prison?
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Actually, I agree with him that I am better at determining where my money goes without .gov intervention. But I also agree with you that the vast majority of Americans are complete idiots in dealing with their own money. So where does that leave us as Americans?

I'll still have his wife and kids shot if he kidnaps any of my business associates though... Pretty sure that threat will keep hom from doing that. :eek:k:
 
#892
#892
hog88 said:
You don't get out much do you?

If this was the case welfare would be unneeded. The majority of Americans are complete idiots with their money hence the mass amounts of personal debt. I suppose you support the return of debtors prison?
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People are stupid with their money, but they are way dumber about government. Some people actually think strong central government is the reason the world gets fed.
 
#893
#893
n_huffhines said:
People are stupid with their money, but they are way dumber about government. Some people actually think strong central government is the reason the world gets fed.
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Actually, I agree with you here.


F 'em. Let 'em starve.:cray:
 
#894
#894
SpaceCoastVol said:
Actually, I agree with you here.


F 'em. Let 'em starve.:cray:
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They're not going to starve. We are wealthy and charitable enough to raise money and run shelters for animals. We do the same for people and would do it bigger and better without the government crutch.
 
#895
#895
n_huffhines said:
They're not going to starve. We are wealthy and charitable enough to raise money and run shelters for animals. We do the same for people and would do it bigger and better without the government crutch.
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Until the bleeding heart socialists get tired of PMSNBC showing the starving little ghetto kids that can't get any assistance at all... then what?

Oh, that's right, socialists won't exist in the anarchist's utopia.
 
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#896
#896
SpaceCoastVol said:
Until the bleeding heart socialists get tired of PMSNBC showing the starving little ghetto kids that can't get any assistance at all... then what?

Oh, that's right, socialists won't exist in the anarchist's utopia.
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Actually, I imagine there would be entire neighborhoods and cities built on socialism under ancap.
 
#897
#897
n_huffhines said:
Before strong central governments? Strong central governments have been a theme throughout history.

We have the ability to feed everyone because of the economics involved. Technology, transportation, communication, etc. has all made feeding the world feasible. It has nothing to do with government.
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No they have not.

We do have the ability to feed the world due to our infrastructure. No way in heck our infrastructure survives AnCap.
 
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