The Official Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist Thread

[Godfatha]

Trump has mentioned restricting the Internet on more than one occasion. That would be the big opponent of free speech.

If we limit anyone, we should start with Christians. Christian terrorists are more likely to kill you in the US, they just have a better PR person that the Islamic terrorists.

Oh dear god. Don't know what to say to that one.

 

[Vol8188]

Oh dear god. Don't know what to say to that one.

Both statements are factually accurate

 

[Grand Vol]

Trump has mentioned restricting the Internet on more than one occasion. That would be the big opponent of free speech.

If we limit anyone, we should start with Christians. Christian terrorists are more likely to kill you in the US, they just have a better PR person that the Islamic terrorists.

You'd best start backing up this nonsense with proof.

 

[Godfatha]

Trump has mentioned restricting the Internet on more than one occasion. That would be the big opponent of free speech.

If we limit anyone, we should start with Christians. Christian terrorists are more likely to kill you in the US, they just have a better PR person that the Islamic terrorists.

Not really a fan of Trump. I don't think he's much of a constitutionalist.

 

[Vol8188]

You'd best start backing up this nonsense with proof.

Study: White Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamists Since 9/11

 

[Vol8188]

Not really a fan of Trump. I don't think he's much of a constitutionalist.

Agreed. His views on executive power are only equaled by Obama

 

[Vol8188]

Study: White Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamists Since 9/11

This article gives a conservative 2 to 1 estimate. I've seen some call the death toll as high as 7 to 1.

 

[Godfatha]

Both statements are factually accurate

Considering there's many times more Christians or people who identify as Christians in this country I would suppose statistically speaking you'd be correct. of course that statistic is akin to saying you're more likely to get bit by a cottonmouth in south Alabama than a king cobra.

 

[Vol8188]

Considering there's many times more Christians or people who identify as Christians in this country I would suppose statistically speaking you'd be correct. of course that statistic is akin to saying you're more likely to get bit by a cottonmouth in south Alabama than a king cobra.

I can't say I've seen any stats that do factor in population, but I'd be interesting in seeing them if you had them.

But either way it's amazing how much our government focuses on a much smaller problem in Islamic terrorism

 

[Grand Vol]

Study: White Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamists Since 9/11

More dangerous lol

Here's the baseline study by the group:

Homegrown Extremism: Deadly Attacks Since 9/11 | The International Security Program

And not only that, they are really, really stretching the homegrown, ultra right wing (their words, not mine) extremist involvement. Do you even check the links?

Here's a couple of examples of their "homegrown extremism"

Homegrown Extremism: Terror Plot | The International Security Program

Homegrown Extremism: Terror Plot | The International Security Program

And of course, they only go by numbers killed and certainly not injured. I mean, why let something that minor get in the way of downplaying the role of radical Islam in the Boston Marathon bombing? Or the 30 injured at Fort Hood.

Your attempts at "proof" are an utter fail on your part.

 

[Vol8188]

More dangerous lol

Here's the baseline study by the group:

Homegrown Extremism: Deadly Attacks Since 9/11 | The International Security Program

And not only that, they are really, really stretching the homegrown, ultra right wing (their words, not mine) extremist involvement. Do you even check the links?

Here's a couple of examples of their "homegrown extremism"

Homegrown Extremism: Terror Plot | The International Security Program

Homegrown Extremism: Terror Plot | The International Security Program

And of course, they only go by numbers killed and certainly not injured. I mean, why let something that minor get in the way of downplaying the role of radical Islam in the Boston Marathon bombing? Or the 30 injured at Fort Hood.

Your attempts at "proof" are an utter fail on your part.

That's your big complaint? That the study looked at the number of people killed? How is that unfair?

And both of those links 100% represent examples of white terrorism. How do they not?

 

[Grand Vol]

This article gives a conservative 2 to 1 estimate. I've seen some call the death toll as high as 7 to 1.

Oh no's! You might want to recheck that number with the current figures.

Do you even read the hyperlinks in the articles?

 

[Grand Vol]

That's your big complaint? That the study looked at the number of people killed? How is that unfair?

lol

This tells me you didn't even read the links.

You are a simple creature.

 

[Vol8188]

lol

This tells me you didn't even read the links.

You are a simple creature.

See the edit. Both links are 100% examples of white terrorism

 

[Vol8188]

Oh no's! You might want to recheck that number with the current figures.

Do you even read the hyperlinks in the articles?

So the CA shooting got the numbers closer to even? Still in favor of the right wing terrorists.

 

[Godfatha]

See the edit. Both links are 100% examples of white terrorism

White terrorism?

 

[Vol8188]

White terrorism?

Sure. White terrorism. Normally right wing religious fanatics. They like to attack black churches, abortion clinics, Jewish schools, and government buildings.

 

[Grand Vol]

And I forgot, but they also ignored the DC Beltway attacks.

That adds another 10 to their list of people killed in the name of Allah.

This is what happens when you decide to sole source your information. You end up looking real foolish in the end.

 

[Grand Vol]

See the edit. Both links are 100% examples of white terrorism

A bank robbery where a guard was killed is "terrorism"? As is supposedly a cop getting shot?

 

[Vol8188]

And I forgot, but they also ignored the DC Beltway attacks.

That adds another 10 to their list of people killed in the name of Allah.

This is what happens when you decide to sole source your information. You end up looking real foolish in the end.

Still responsible for twice as many attacks, and I'm sure there's some that should've been included on the domestic terrorist side as well.

 

[Vol8188]

A bank robbery where a guard was killed is "terrorism"? As is supposedly a cop getting shot?

Did you read their intentions? They were wanting to get revenge for Waco.

The other guy intentionally ambushed 3 officers because of his anti government views.

Yes. Both are terrorism.

 

[Grand Vol]

So the CA shooting got the numbers closer to even? Still in favor of the right wing terrorists.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject a bit more before you try to keep proving a point. Because if you really want to start on this "white people are bad" trip, let's go ahead and check the ledger:

Radical Islam: 3,051 with at least double that injured.

Homegrown white ultra right wing fanatics: 216, plus around three times that injured.

I added in 9/11 on the jihadist side and OKC on the homegrown side.

You still want to try to play numbers with me? Stop before I really make you look like a fool.

 

[Vol8188]

Perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject a bit more before you try to keep proving a point. Because if you really want to start on this "white people are bad" trip, let's go ahead and check the ledger:

Radical Islam: 3,051 with at least double that injured.

Homegrown white ultra right wing fanatics: 216, plus around three times that injured.

I added in 9/11 on the jihadist side and OKC on the homegrown side.

You still want to try to play numbers with me? Stop before I really make you look like a fool.

You don't consider the largest terrorist attack in Us history to be a bit of an outlier? There's a reason 9/11 wasn't included.

But you're still looking at white terrorism being far more common.

 

[Grand Vol]

Did you read their intentions? They were wanting to get revenge for Waco.

The other guy intentionally ambushed 3 officers because of his anti government views.

Yes. Both are terrorism.

Both are terrorism because the government says they are terrorism. Are you sure you're in the right thread? Because this thread specifically takes a viewpoint that a sitting government isn't always the best institution to make such a judgment...

Unless of course you completely trust the government to make such a determination. Or do you just pick and choose what facts the government believes in that fits your agenda?

 

[Godfatha]

Still responsible for twice as many attacks, and I'm sure there's some that should've been included on the domestic terrorist side as well.

Again, considering 70.6% of the nation's population identifies as Christian and .9% identify as Muslim, that means an
Individual Muslim residing in the US is many many more times likely to commit terrorism than an individual Christian in the US. Statistics are fun.