The Official Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist Thread

[Rickyvol77]

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Enforcing immigration laws isn’t racist

 

[0nelilreb]

Enforcing immigration laws isn’t racist

Of course it’s not and he knows it , but Huff like using words like that as click bait .

 

[n_huffhines]

Enforcing immigration laws isn’t racist

It's like you have no idea what the point of the thread is

 

[n_huffhines]

Of course it’s not and he knows it , but Huff like using words like that as click bait .

Click bait?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Of course it’s not and he knows it , but Huff like using words like that as click bait .

Huff is the ultimate liberal in libertarian clothing.

 

[n_huffhines]

Huff is the ultimate liberal in libertarian clothing.

That's how it's supposed to be, actually. Libertarianism is liberalism. Democrats are fake ass liberals. Real or classical liberals are now libertarians. ; )

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

That's how it's supposed to be, actually. Libertarianism is liberalism. Democrats are fake ass liberals. Real or classical liberals are now libertarians. ; )

That explains your messed up views perfectly

 

[Elhanan]

I’m a minarchist libertarian.

I barely know how to run my own life and in turn have no desire to tell others how to run theirs.

I hope to be given the same courtesy by other citizens and a small state that basically plays the role of ref.

Equality of opportunity, equality in rights, a free an open society.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Oh, this would have been shutdown in the US a long time ago due to liability. This is one instance where Canada may be ahead of the US in terms of freedom.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

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[AshG]

That explains your messed up views perfectly

Nah, technically he's right. The US was founded on the framework of western Enlightenment liberalism. Somewhere along the way, we conflated the terms progressive and liberal and it's turned into a semantics nightmare. American conservatives are actually quite well versed in western Enlightenment liberalism, they just avoid calling it that now.

"Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and marketization. Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights. While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building."

 

[StarRaider]

I’m a minarchist libertarian.

I barely know how to run my own life and in turn have no desire to tell others how to run theirs.

I hope to be given the same courtesy by other citizens and a small state that basically plays the role of ref.

Equality of opportunity, equality in rights, a free an open society.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

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Here is the deal with immigration and ICE. You can't have the libertarian ideal of open borders if you have a welfare state. Before you move to an open borders policy, you have to deal with the welfare/collectivist problem first.

 

[VolStrom]

Here is the deal with immigration and ICE. You can't have the libertarian ideal of open borders if you have a welfare state. Before you move to an open borders policy, you have to deal with the welfare/collectivist problem first.

There has been a welfare state in this country as long as I can remember and that's over 60 years. The democrats will never end the welfare state until our country can no longer function because it's bankrupt.

 

[n_huffhines]

Here is the deal with immigration and ICE. You can't have the libertarian ideal of open borders if you have a welfare state. Before you move to an open borders policy, you have to deal with the welfare/collectivist problem first.

Nah. You are forever restricting the basic freedom of movement because of a welfare state that will never go away. I get why somebody would agree with you but an anarchist should not.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Here is the deal with immigration and ICE. You can't have the libertarian ideal of open borders if you have a welfare state. Before you move to an open borders policy, you have to deal with the welfare/collectivist problem first.

It really is that simple

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Nah. You are forever restricting the basic freedom of movement because of a welfare state that will never go away. I get why somebody would agree with you but an anarchist should not.

Why should the people that lived here and paid their dues/taxes have to support strangers that just crossed the border?

It is a redistribution of wealth scheme between the native people and the immigrants. Remove the welfare state and then open the borders. Otherwise, you will have that unfair wealth redistribution.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[n_huffhines]

Why should the people that lived here and paid their dues/taxes have to support strangers that just crossed the border?

It is a redistribution of wealth scheme between the native people and the immigrants. Remove the welfare state and then open the borders. Otherwise, you will have that unfair wealth redistribution.

It's already unfair.

What we pay in taxes and what they spend on the welfare state are not related. We spend way beyond our means. We're going bankrupt one way or another. I refuse to deny people freedom because it might bankrupt us a little sooner.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

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This is not a truthful meme because the poor were allowed to glean the fields based on Leviticus 19.

 

[n_huffhines]

This is not a truthful meme because the poor were allowed to glean the fields based on Leviticus 19.

Ok, man. It's not truthful because it's all fake

 

[n_huffhines]

And Jesus definitely wouldn't have said "deny less fortunate strangers because some of them may not glean the fields."

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

And Jesus definitely wouldn't have said "deny less fortunate strangers because some of them may not glean the fields."

Gleaning the fields takes work and effort. That is totally different than the welfare system we have right now.

 

[Orangeslice13]

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1) Jesus never said that. that’s Torah as written in exodus.
2) just a little bit later you’re instructed that if you don’t work you don’t eat.