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n_huffhines said:
Many 18th and 19th century American Christians, for example
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“Many”? Got any specifically? Because while some minority of people who practiced Christians were in favor of slavery as an economic thing, it was never true Christianity or a majority even. You are talking about maybe a small number of Christians worldwide. In fact you can’t point to any group of Christians who currently support slavery. Now if you wanna try the gutter religions than yes
 
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MG1968 said:
Being generous with other peoples’ money isn’t Christlike.
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I agree. I am not advocating for the redistribution of wealth. I'm saying existing redistribution of wealth doesn't justify denying people freedom and opportunity.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, Jesus is definitely gonna take issue with me for saying be Christlike.
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Maybe, maybe not. I don’t speak for him.

I don’t think you know what it means.
Like most fairly tall Christians….I don’t think you know who Yeshua really is.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I got it. It's not a condition for the commandment I am referencing.
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OK, let's step away from scripture for a moment and lets dance a bit on the secular/Ayn Rand side of this.
Are you suggesting that work should not be a part of welfare? What did Ayn Rand say about altruism? Wouldn't what you are talking about be the altruism that Rand abhorred so much?

I think you lose this argument on the secular/libertarian side or the religious/Levitical side.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I agree. I am not advocating for the redistribution of wealth. I'm saying existing redistribution of wealth doesn't justify denying people freedom and opportunity.
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Hell, the people that are living here right now don't even have true freedom and opportunity. We began to lose that in the mid 1960's and have gradually moved more collectivist and anti-Bill of Rights since then.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
OK, let's step away from scripture for a moment and lets dance a bit on the secular/Ayn Rand side of this.
Are you suggesting that work should not be a part of welfare? What did Ayn Rand say about altruism? Wouldn't what you are talking about be the altruism that Rand abhorred so much?

I think you lose this argument on the secular/libertarian side or the religious/Levitical side.
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I honestly don't give one **** about Rand. I value Jesus much more than Rand, and I'm not religious.

It's all about freedom because it produces the best results on the net. Whether you go at it from an altruistic standpoint or a Randian, I have no qualm as long as the goal is liberty.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
“Many”? Got any specifically? Because while some minority of people who practiced Christians were in favor of slavery as an economic thing, it was never true Christianity or a majority even. You are talking about maybe a small number of Christians worldwide. In fact you can’t point to any group of Christians who currently support slavery. Now if you wanna try the gutter religions than yes
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So I guess all the people voting for reps that instituted and upheld slavery for a century, and then fought a war to maintain it, were just atheists and non-Christian deists?
 
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n_huffhines said:
So I guess all the people voting for reps that instituted and upheld slavery for a century, and then fought a war to maintain it, were just atheists and non-Christian deists?
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so if I’m a Christian and I vote for a Democratic representative am I fully supporting abortion? And do I represent all Christians or even a majority of them? I don’t think you’re thinking through your logical conclusions
 
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n_huffhines said:
I agree. I am not advocating for the redistribution of wealth. I'm saying existing redistribution of wealth doesn't justify denying people freedom and opportunity.
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You believe that anyone should be let into America and allowed to live here for any reason without any kind of background check?
 
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VolStrom said:
There has been a welfare state in this country as long as I can remember and that's over 60 years. The democrats will never end the welfare state until our country can no longer function because it's bankrupt.
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It's too bad there hasn't been a Republican supermajority coinciding with a Republican presidency in the past twenty years or so. Could end it all in one vote.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
so if I’m a Christian and I vote for a Democratic representative am I fully supporting abortion? And do I represent all Christians or even a majority of them? I don’t think you’re thinking through your logical conclusions
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This board is notorious for its "just one drop" mentality and argumentation. Voting for a D/R/L/I means you fully support everything that candidate and their party supports, without exception. All of it. Including what they are having for lunch next Tuesday.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
so if I’m a Christian and I vote for a Democratic representative am I fully supporting abortion? And do I represent all Christians or even a majority of them? I don’t think you’re thinking through your logical conclusions
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I never said all Christians. I said many, which you scoffed at but now are moving the goalposts while condescendingly talking about logic.

I never said fully support. Any amount of support, yes, even a reluctant vote for a candidate that supports slavery or abortion, is enough to raise an eyebrow. It's enough to say they supported slavery. Maybe they didn't like it, but they voted to support it and they somehow justified it, despite the entirely grotesque and despicable nature of the institution.
 
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For nearly 20 years I've been defending libertarianism telling people that we don't need the government to tell us what to do because people will make good choices and libertarians specifically have made a liar out of me. Don't mistake criticism of bad choices for opposition to having choices.
 
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n_huffhines said:
For nearly 20 years I've been defending libertarianism telling people that we don't need the government to tell us what to do because people will make good choices and libertarians specifically have made a liar out of me. Don't mistake criticism of bad choices for opposition to having choices.
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COVID exposed flaws in most libertarian principles. I've had to re-evaluate some things. But that doesn't mean you got made a fool of... you just are armed with more information and life experiences now.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That tweet had two libertarian positions at the end of it. Seems like you were not satisfied with a person having either choice.
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I demand satisfaction!

One of them was a statement and one of them was a choice. Whatever you're driving at, my position is that people should have choices, and mocking them with memes for making bad choices is not antithetical to libertarianism.
 
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