The Official Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist Thread

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n_huffhines said:
It seems like you read the tweets and not the article.
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I read the article, that I linked, which referenced the tweets specifically. The tweets seemed to be the main issue the article was pointing to.

Was there a worse example that I failed to mention?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Keep fighting the good fight so I don't have to worry about whatever it is you're afraid of enough to be fighting a war over it.
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Keep watching the pendulum swing more and more towards authoritarianism and government, while you sit on the sidelines. But don't say I didn't warn you.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I read the article, that I linked, which referenced the tweets specifically. The tweets seemed to be the main issue the article was pointing to.

Was there a worse example that I failed to mention?
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The article was talking about a lot more than just data points and incidents, like the polls that depicted general attitudes. Trans rights are human rights, but Ron Paul people like me in 2008 were saying "gay rights" and I don't remember anybody responding like smartasses to "define gay rights and explain why they aren't universal to all humans." and the Mises caucus is doing that now because they prioritize a right wing position in the culture war and care less about bringing more people under the liberty umbrella.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Keep watching the pendulum swing more and more towards authoritarianism and government, while you sit on the sidelines. But don't say I didn't warn you.
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I can oppose authoritarianism without engaging in the culture war. In fact, it's clear to me that the right wing people in government are all too comfortable using heavy-handed government to fight the culture war, so I don't even know how you can have this take. It's specifically a reason I try to stay out of the fray, because the people on both sides that are actually fighting it do not have the same view of government as I do.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The article was talking about a lot more than just data points and incidents, like the polls that depicted general attitudes. Trans rights are human rights, but Ron Paul people like me in 2008 were saying "gay rights" and I don't remember anybody responding like smartasses that "define gay rights and explain why they aren't universal to all humans. " and the Mises caucus is doing that now because they prioritize a right wing position in the culture war and care less about bringing more people under the liberty umbrella.
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Paul stated that, "You have to remember, rights don't come in groups we shouldn't have 'gay rights'; rights come as individuals, and we wouldn't have this major debate going on. It would be behavior that would count, not what person belongs to what group."

I think you're failing here....
 
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Vol8188 said:
Paul stated that, "You have to remember, rights don't come in groups we shouldn't have 'gay rights'; rights come as individuals, and we wouldn't have this major debate going on. It would be behavior that would count, not what person belongs to what group."

I think you're failing here....
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Wow. So Ron Paul was explaining why he wouldn't reinstate "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and you're taking it out of context and comparing it to people saying something sort of similar, but their motive is to detract from/oppose said group. The spirit of what they are saying is not the same.

Nobody said "Ron Paul never advocated individuals over groups." Clearly, that's what he was about. But the point of the article and everything I'm saying is that we in the Ron Paul movement were not really about taking sides in the culture war and the Mises caucus is all about it.

You'll endlessly twist everything to distract from that point. IDK what your motives are or if you are just incapable of understanding nuance, but it's tiresome and weird.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Wow. So Ron Paul was explaining why he wouldn't reinstate "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and you're taking it out of context and comparing it to people saying something sort of similar, but their motive is to detract from/oppose said group. The spirit of what they are saying is not the same.

Nobody said "Ron Paul never advocated individuals over groups." Clearly, that's what he was about. But the point of the article and everything I'm saying is that we in the Ron Paul movement were not really about taking sides in the culture war and the Mises caucus is all about it.

You'll endlessly twist everything to distract from that point. IDK what your motives are or if you are just incapable of understanding nuance, but it's tiresome and weird.
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Was the point of the tweet mentioned, not to point out that individual rights, not group rights, are the goal? Seems like the same sentiment expressed by Paul. What am I distracting from? Both Mises and Ron Paul opposed identity politics. Ron Paul was not talking about "gay rights". He advocated for individual rights.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Was the point of the tweet mentioned, not to point out that individual rights, not group rights, are the goal? Seems like the same sentiment expressed by Paul. What am I distracting from? Both Mises and Ron Paul opposed identity politics. Ron Paul was not talking about "gay rights". He advocated for individual rights.
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Mises is focusing on identity politics. That is precisely the point. They are spending lots of political capital appealing to the anti-woke, anti-progressive, Christianity/Catholics/whites are under attack crowd. This is not debatable. This isn't just the perspective of huff type libertarians. Jack Hunter is a guy who really closely aligns with Mises and Rand Paul, and he's calling it out.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Mises is focusing on identity politics. That is precisely the point. They are spending lots of political capital appealing to the anti-woke, anti-progressive, Christianity/Catholics/whites are under attack crowd. This is not debatable. This isn't just the perspective of huff type libertarians. Jack Hunter is a guy who really closely aligns with Mises and Rand Paul, and he's calling it out.
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Can you show me examples of this that I’m missing or perhaps an example in the article that I’m not seeing properly?

Because from my perspective you’re just proclaiming they’re playing to white Christian’s by opposing identity politics. If so, those are not the same.

It would be like claiming Paul was playing to die Ty politics by supporting tax breaks that many white men agreed with
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think most people with common sense can understand the intent of the sign. It isn't that serious.
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You're right, it's not. I think you're supposed to be laughing at it.

However, never heard anybody use the term adult spouse to explain that there is one adult partner who can drink and one adult partner who cannot. We also live in a world where we have minor (meaning younger than 18) spouses. We also live in a world where people who do not care about this fact are fighting against drag shows, so the point remains.

But I'm sure Applebee's appreciates you fighting against this meme.
 
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