The "official" Lost thread

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#2,026
vol4eva said:
They already told us what the island was.
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He's just mad that the aliens never showed up. He was so convinced that the island was going to be some big huge Hitchcockian twist that he never bothered to pay attention to anything and was only looking at what HE thought the show should be about.

jamesd1628 said:
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Evidence for ancient astronauts often consists of allegations that ancient monuments, such as the pyramids of Egypt, or Machu Picchu in Peru, or other ancient megalithic ruins, such as Baalbek in Lebanon,[15] could not have been built without technical abilities beyond those of people at that time. Such allegations are not unique in history. Similar reasoning lay behind the wonder of the Cyclopean masonry walling at Mycenaean cities in the eyes of Greeks of the following "Dark Age," who believed that the giant Cyclopes had built the walls. Typical candidates for the lost civilizations that taught or provided these skills are the lost continents of Atlantis, Lemuria and Mu. View of Machu Picchu Machu Picchu (Quechua: Old Peak; sometimes called the Lost City of the Incas) is a well-preserved pre-Columbian Inca ruin located on a high mountain ridge. ... Overview of Baalbek in the late 19th century Baalbek (Arabic: ‎) is a town in the Bekaa Valley of Lebanon, altitude 3,850 ft (1,170 m), situated east of the Litani River. ... Cyclopean structures (Greek: Κυκλώπειες κατασκευÎ*ς) were constructed during the prehistoric times, using a unique technique: huge stones as the building elements, minimal clearance between adjacent stones and no use of mortar. ... Mycenaean Greece, the last phase of the Bronze Age in ancient Greece, is the historical setting of the epics of Homer and much other Greek mythology. ... The Greek Dark Ages (ca. ... This page is about the mythical creatures. ... Lost Lands are islands or continents believed by some to have existed during pre-history, but to have since disappeared as a result of catastrophic geological phenomena. ... Atlantis (Greek: , Island of Atlas) is the name of an island first mentioned and described by the classical Greek philosopher Plato. ... Lemuria is the name of a hypothetical lost land variously located in the Indian and Pacific Oceans. ... Underwater structures controversially identified as remnants of Mu, near Yonaguni, Japan Mu is the name of a lost land, or hypothetical vanished continent, that was once located in the Pacific Ocean but is now (like Atlantis and Lemuria, with which it is sometimes identified) believed to have sunk beneath the...


Another frequent theme that can be encountered in many mythologies is a person who comes from far away as a god, or as the archetype of a "civilizing hero" who brings knowledge to mankind. Prometheus is the best-known Western example. In Native American lore there are numerous examples, including Quetzalcoatl of the Aztecs and Viracocha of the Incas. An archetype is a generic, idealized model of a person, object or concept from which similar instances are derived, copied, patterned or emulated. ... Prometheus, by Gustave Moreau In Greek mythology, Prometheus (Ancient Greek, Προμηθεύς, forethought) is the Titan chiefly honored for stealing fire from the gods in the stalk of a fennel plant and giving it to mortals for their use. ... A Hupa man, 1923 The indigenous peoples of the Americas were the pre-Columbian inhabitants of the Americas, their descendants, and many ethnic groups who identify with those historical peoples. ... Quetzalcoatl in human form, from the Codex Borbonicus. ... The word Aztec is usually used as a historical term, although some contemporary Nahuatl speakers would consider themselves Aztecs. ... In Inca mythology, Apu Qun Tiqsi Wiraqutra was the creator of civilization, and one of the most important deities in the Inca canon. ... For other meanings of Inca, see Inca (disambiguation). ...


The cross-cultural similarities of deities coming from the heavens and the manners in which they speak to humans are explained by some as evidence of visitations by extraterrestrial beings. The myths of Gods and Goddesses are real accounts of these visitations. The extraterrestrials are seen as divine due to their technology which is superior to the point it can only be explained as the “powers” or magic of the God or Goddess by the creators of the deity myths. For the computer game, see Myth (computer game). ...
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jamesd1628 said:
Just randomly thinking of things that support my "ancient aliens" theory of Lost. Remember when the Smoke dude (in John's body) says to the people on the beach "I'm disappointed in all of you!" What did he mean? Disappointed in what the human race has become following alien's "civilization" of man? Or, better yet, the aliens' manipulation of pre-human DNA to create modern man? Now, he is disappointed in what earthly humans have become. Just a thought.
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#2,028
#2,028
jamesd1628 said:
Well now that you've straightened that out for me . . . I still think the end sucked. Look, the problem isn't that some stuff isn't explained, or that they rely on mystery or mysticism, or allegory, or whatever. Its that the show was never presented that way. The writers touted the island as real, up to the very end, as so many of you have pointed out, and they baited the audience by implying that explanations would come. Even just a few episodes ago Richard said hat he knew what the island was, with the implication that the audience would find out. We didn't, of course. I just think the writers got themselves into a pickle that they couldn't escape. So they copped out and performed the biggest bait an switch in the history of tv.
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are you talking about when richard said that the island was hell? i'm pretty sure everyone eventually came to the conclusion that that wasn't at all the case..
 
#2,030
#2,030
Just another thing I thought about. Why did Desmond tell Jack, on the island, that this battle between him and MIB didn't matter. That there was this better place where the plane never crashed, and a place where they could all be with their loved ones. Desmond says he's going to go down into the light and go somewhere else. Should we assume Desmond is mistaken that the sideways world is a better place rather than it actual being purgatory? Otherwise, it would seem stupid for Desmond to think that dying would be a better option just because there is this holdover place before they all go to heave.
 
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volball625 said:
Just another thing I thought about. Why did Desmond tell Jack, on the island, that this battle between him and MIB didn't matter. That there was this better place where the plane never crashed, and a place where they could all be with their loved ones. Desmond says he's going to go down into the light and go somewhere else. Should we assume Desmond is mistaken that the sideways world is a better place rather than it actual being purgatory? Otherwise, it would seem stupid for Desmond to think that dying would be a better option just because there is this holdover place before they all go to heave.
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I just thought when Widmore put him in the chamber thing, he jumped to the purgatory, or saw it, or whatever. And to him it was a better place.

I guess.
 
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Roughneck said:
He's just mad that the aliens never showed up. He was so convinced that the island was going to be some big huge Hitchcockian twist that he never bothered to pay attention to anything and was only looking at what HE thought the show should be about.
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He cares more about the mysteries/answers than the characters themselves.
 
#2,033
#2,033
volball625 said:
Just another thing I thought about. Why did Desmond tell Jack, on the island, that this battle between him and MIB didn't matter. That there was this better place where the plane never crashed, and a place where they could all be with their loved ones. Desmond says he's going to go down into the light and go somewhere else. Should we assume Desmond is mistaken that the sideways world is a better place rather than it actual being purgatory? Otherwise, it would seem stupid for Desmond to think that dying would be a better option just because there is this holdover place before they all go to heave.
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I'm not sure. He definitely knew about the purgatory, but not that it was actually a purgatory. I think he thought destroying the island would transfer them all to that reality.
 
#2,034
#2,034
On another board, some wanted to know why Miles wasn't in the church at the end.

My thinking is in the real world, he never knew his father and didn't get to be with him much even after his dad found out who he was in the time travel thing. So in the purgatory he appeared to have a normal relationship with him and maybe that's where he is supposed to be. We've already seen that you can know what the truth is about you being there, with Ben and Eloise, and like Eliose didn't want Farraday leaving yet, so maybe Miles is staying to keep his relationship with his dad; not to mention there was no indication he was "awakened".
 
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Roughneck said:
He's just mad that the aliens never showed up. He was so convinced that the island was going to be some big huge Hitchcockian twist that he never bothered to pay attention to anything and was only looking at what HE thought the show should be about.
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I bet he's a big fan of George Lucas' latest work.
 
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chavisut said:
We never saw Frank in the purgatory timeline. Wished he would have made an appearance in some capacity.
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Yeah I didn't get that one. I felt he spent enough time to be in the church at the end, but maybe he accepted things a lot sooner.

The character I think got shafted the most was Ilana.
 
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#2,039
kptvol said:
He didn't really spend very much time on the island. Not sure if that's important or not.
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Yeah, I don't think that should have necessarily been his purgatory or been part of the group at the end, but there was plenty of people seen in the time line that were less involved than him.
 
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chavisut said:
Yeah, I don't think that should have necessarily been his purgatory or been part of the group at the end, but there was plenty of people seen in the time line that were less involved than him.
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I suppose that limo driver wasn't exactly a key component of the real story.
 
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#2,043
kptvol said:
Meh. Maybe Miles. The other three didn't interact much with a lot of the characters.
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Yeah, I wouldn't have minded either way. Frank and Sun did spend quite a bit of time together, but you're right about Miles. He spend three years with left-behinds.
 
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#2,047
VolGal423 said:
So...um what am I supposed to watch tomorrow?
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Watch the first season of Supernatural and see if you like it. Im not going to say it's as good as Lost but similar sort of mythical storylines.Ironically both actors that played Jacob and MIB are two key characters in the past season of Supernatural.
 
#2,048
#2,048
wounded mullet said:
Watch the first season of Supernatural and see if you like it. Im not going to say it's as good as Lost but similar sort of mythical storylines.Ironically both actors that played Jacob and MIB are two key characters in the past season of Supernatural.
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Oh my weirdness! I had a friend just yesterday tell me that I need to get into that show!!! He's getting me the first few seasons on DVD!!! I'm kind of excited about it bc I've watched it in syndication and liked it but never really understood what was going on!!!
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#2,049
#2,049
Interesting idea (IMO): the survivors' time on the island served as a chance to re-write their history, to redo some of the mistakes they had made before, and to form lasting and meaningful relationships with their fellow man -- much of which had been flawed in their prior life. That's why it was said to be the "most important" time of their lives. Much like war veterans, or others who have been through a crisis: an experience that exhibits what they were "made of." Much of their prior lives had been dictated by unfortunate situations that were forced upon them by family/government. On the island, they were able to reconcile conflicts and make a new "life," thus allowing their true "souls" to shine, rather than be overshadowed by the past. In the end, they were all "better" from their experience, and were judged by that.

Just my take. I thought it was great. If more TV was so well written and thought-provoking, I would probably spend a lot more time on the tube.
 
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VolGal423 said:
Oh my weirdness! I had a friend just yesterday tell me that I need to get into that show!!! He's getting me the first few seasons on DVD!!! I'm kind of excited about it bc I've watched it in syndication and liked it but never really understood what was going on!!!
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It's a show you have to start from the beginning as well and have patience with the storyline in season 1, because the buildup of the main arch storylines and the backstory of the two brothers into seasons 2, 3 and 4 is well worth the investment. I think since it's on the CW it gets a bad rap. Hope you enjoy and feel free to post in the thread on here :eek:k:
 
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