The Part This Season Should Play in the Pearl Situation

[OrangeInKy]

It should have absolutely no impact on the decision-making process by the administration. Those of you that change your positions on whether Pearl should go or not on a game-to-game basis ought to realize what a fickle position that is. My position is that Pearl should be relieved of his duties, and it wouldn't matter if we were 29-0 right now.

The decision is simple, if you believe that Pearl's actions don't warrant firing, then regardless of the results of this season, he absolutely shouldn't be fired. He's earned another year through his results. However, if you believe that his actions do warrant firing, then your position shouldn't change based on a few wins. Go Vols!

Agree! I have had my opinion since September and nothing to do with bball. I never ever thought I would feel the way I do, and if not for the AA mess, I wouldn't feel this way at all. Good post
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[TennFan]

Where can UT find anyone that can do as well or better with the program than Bruce has since he's been at UT? I know there are others who agree with me that he should stay. We will see what happens after the end of the season. GO VOLS!

 

[vol1981]

Where can UT find anyone that can do as well or better with the program than Bruce has since he's been at UT? I know there are others who agree with me that he should stay. We will see what happens after the end of the season. GO VOLS!

Wow, a unique question that hasn't been asked but about 1000 times in the past few weeks.

How about asking if anyone else can do as much TO
the program?

 

[LawVol13]

Hmmm. Interesting. The OP takes pleasure using his catch phrase of calling people idiots and being clueless. Now he starts a thread calling people out for changing positions on Pearl, while saying he should be relieved of his duties.

Here's his first post from a thread he started a few days ago:

"I've long maintained that if Pearl could get less than 1 year suspension then I wouldn't argue with retaining him."

Nice thread calling out yourself.

What Pearl did is a fireable offense, in my opinion. No matter if he gets minimal punishment from the NCAA, I still think he should be fired. The point of the post that you've drug up in a failed attempt to "call me out" is being taken out of context. What we were discussing in that conversation was keeping Pearl at the expense of the program. My point was that while it's a fireable offense and I think he should be fired, if he got less than a year suspension, it wouldn't destroy the program to keep Pearl. Therefore, while I disagree with the decision, I wouldn't argue about it under that scenario. Nice try.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Where can UT find anyone that can do as well or better with the program than Bruce has since he's been at UT? I know there are others who agree with me that he should stay. We will see what happens after the end of the season. GO VOLS!

Gee I don't know...considering they found Pearl to begin with I guess that proves it can be done.

Seriously, that question is stupid.

 

[hatvol96]

Where can UT find anyone that can do as well or better with the program than Bruce has since he's been at UT?

Wichita, KS.
Columbia, MO.
Las Vegas, NV.
Jascksonville, FL.
Boston, MA.

That's a start.

 

[AlaskaVol]

What Pearl did is a fireable offense, in my opinion. .

You can get off your soap box, Nancy. We have all heard how you feel about this over and over and over again. We all know there is no place in your world for mistakes and we get it that you must be a perfect person. We are glad for you.

 

[LawVol13]

You can get off your soap box, Nancy. We have all heard how you feel about this over and over and over again. We all know there is no place in your world for mistakes and we get it that you must be a perfect person. We are glad for you.

It's truly funny how you cry and ***** about people telling you that you're a moron on here when you post garbage like this. Now, head on back to the Failmer shrine.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Pearl built up an enormous amount of goodwill by infusing new life into the program. Unfortunately, Pearl has burned all that goodwill to the ground with his major violations and ethics charges. My basic feeling is that those essentially cancel each other out -- leaving us with his actual coaching. And this season is a useful datum in evaluating the quality of the coach we're sticking our neck out for.

 

[OrangeInKy]

Wichita, KS.
Columbia, MO.
Las Vegas, NV.
Jascksonville, FL.
Boston, MA.

That's a start.

Haha, there it is! What about Tuscaloosa? Who is the coach in Jacksonville? I am familiar with all you listed but him.
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[VolsSportsFan]

You can get off your soap box, Nancy. We have all heard how you feel about this over and over and over again. We all know there is no place in your world for mistakes and we get it that you must be a perfect person. We are glad for you.

So I take it you afford Kiffin the same forgiving spirit?
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[RollerVol]

good post. the should he stay should he go argument has little to do with wins and losses at this point.

Whether he stays or goes yes, but I believe what he is going through has definitely had a lot to do with his coaching of this team this year. I know he made mistakes but for the life of me I can't rationalize what he did with the hate being rained down on him. I don't know I just have seen so much worse that was done by other coaches and I've seen the positive he has brought to this program. Try walking around in his shoes for a little while. Think about it. For me I hope he stays.
GO VOLS!

 

[UT IE 95]

I've long maintained that if Pearl could get less than 1 year suspension then I wouldn't argue with retaining him.

Those of you that change your positions on whether Pearl should go or not on a game-to-game basis ought to realize what a fickle position that is.

My position is that Pearl should be relieved of his duties, and it wouldn't matter if we were 29-0 right now.

OK

 

[UT IE 95]

So you're saying a person can't look at the punishment for an action to determine whether an action is bad or not?

Absolutely. But that same person then starts a thread saying pick a position and stick with it - and makes it clear his opinion is to fire the coach.

Two different approaches. Either you want him fired, or you want to wait for the penalty to make judgment. Or for some people, you have both opinions in different threads.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

How does the Pearl mess not get to be called a 'sistution'...

 

[volroadwarrior]

But I think the other consideration regarding Pearl is that he has lost this team. If you read the comments from players there is some dissention on this team. I have a theory about that and it involves Steven Pearl. It is my opinion that the more talented players riding the bench or getting less time resent the fact that Pearl plays his son in the most important minutes of the game. That takes away
an offensive option and I think players resent that emphatically. Steven plays as hard as he can but he is just not D-1 material so those riding the pine in favor of a son with no talent is where the riff comes in. This will not be solved until SP leaves but I think it has brought the coach's credibility into play. I believe in second chances but I think this situation is outside the second chance, it reminds me of the Clausen/Ainge scenerio which divided the football team and I think Pearl has divided his basketball team because of his son.

I was wondering when you or other consistent negavols would chime in. Dissension on the team because of Steven Pearl is just something made up by you to advance your agenda. The win/lose record shouldn't totally determine whether he stays or goes, but the future of the program should be what we want to secure with or without Pearl. If penalties are so severe they damage the program for years, then Pearl should go. If not, he should be retained so we don't go through the ups and downs it takes to find a coach to make us a top tier program. JMO

 

[LawVol13]

OK

Again, you take my comments out of context all you like. I've held the same position the whole time. I've already explained the context of the comment you continuously post.

 

[ukvols]

Wichita, KS.
Columbia, MO.
Las Vegas, NV.
Jascksonville, FL.
Boston, MA.

That's a start.

You must consider Anderson a realistic option if you'd list him. Getting the Missouri coach would say a lot about the level the UT job has progressed to.

And, in response to other posters on the subject, I wonder what Gregg Marshall would think if he knew a lot of UT fans consider him a worst-case scenario, for-sure option.

 

[UT IE 95]

Again, you take my comments out of context all you like. I've held the same position the whole time. I've already explained the context of the comment you continuously post.

I get it. You say he should be fired, unless he's not.

You're supporting both sides depending on what day it is, what the penalties are, if we win or lose, etc, etc....

Nothing out of context there. Straight quotes from the original posts of threads you started.

And "continuously post" is twice? Thats only once more than you posted it.

 

[Fijivol72]

I was wondering when you or other consistent negavols would chime in. Dissension on the team because of Steven Pearl is just something made up by you to advance your agenda. The win/lose record shouldn't totally determine whether he stays or goes, but the future of the program should be what we want to secure with or without Pearl. If penalties are so severe they damage the program for years, then Pearl should go. If not, he should be retained so we don't go through the ups and downs it takes to find a coach to make us a top tier program. JMO

my agenda as you call it, is what is best for my alma mater nothing more or less. I haven't writen a word for or against Pearl since all of this was revealed. So how am I being negative when the bottomline is in plain view for everyone to see. You believe SP is D-1 material??? You think some people on the team don't feel they are being treated differently? Maybe it's you that needs to re-think your opinion. I believe what I said as much as you belive your view.

 

[LawVol13]

You're supporting both sides depending on what day it is, what the penalties are, if we win or lose, etc, etc....

That's an absolute lie. I've already explained exactly what I meant by the comment you posted. If you think this is some kind of "gotcha" moment, you're sadly mistaken.

 

[UT IE 95]

That's an absolute lie. I've already explained exactly what I meant by the comment you posted. If you think this is some kind of "gotcha" moment, you're sadly mistaken.

No worries. Everyone's entitled their opinions and the right to change them.

 

[LawVol13]

No worries. Everyone's entitled their opinions and the right to change them.

Look, I couldn't care less what you think. I haven't changed my stance at all on the issue, and no matter how many times you take one comment I made completely out of context, it's not going to change that fact.

 

[BasketvolsFan]

It's really quite simple. If you consider Pearl more important than the program and all the damage his actions will create for the program, then you obviously want him to stay regardless. If you think the program is more important than Pearl or any other coach and you want to minimize the damage to the program as much as possible, you want him terminated. The results of this season has absolutely no bearing on his future. Without the NCAA violations, no one would be advocating for his termination.

 

[UT IE 95]

It's really quite simple. If you consider Pearl more important than the program and all the damage his actions will create for the program, then you obviously want him to stay regardless. If you think the program is more important than Pearl or any other coach and you want to minimize the damage to the program as much as possible, you want him terminated. The results of this season has absolutely no bearing on his future. Without the NCAA violations, no one would be advocating for his termination.

What about taking the position he should be fired based on his actions. But then supporting his retention if the penalties do not force the university to fire him?

As for saying no one would advocate his termination without NCAA violations - did you just join the board?
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