The Presidential Election Was Legitimate. Conspiracies Are Not.

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Has anybody proposed or even outlined a process that would “redeem” this election?

I mean, if we’re to the point of shaming people for not jumping on board with the process for disproving baseless allegations against the integrity of the American electoral process, then surely I’ve slept through the debate over what that process looks like.
 
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davethevol said:
Nothing is legit about people not providing ID in person to vote.
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Here in the Outer Banks, no physical ID was requested when I voted.

Just provide name and address. Nothing else.

Also, we allow dogs in our Home Depot.
 
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k-town_king said:
This particular debunked and meritless conspiracy.
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You're talking about a specific conspiracy that I guess has been debunked. I'm saying that I wouldn't dismiss all election conspiracy accusations. It depends on the conspiracy. If it's a vast conspiracy, I'm out. If it's not, it's plausible. Here I am repeating myself, but sometimes people get it the 2nd time ; )
 
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n_huffhines said:
You're talking about a specific conspiracy that I guess has been debunked. I'm saying that I wouldn't dismiss all election conspiracy accusations. It depends on the conspiracy. If it's a vast conspiracy, I'm out. If it's not, it's plausible. Here I am repeating myself, but sometimes people get it the 2nd time ; )
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Ok, but if it’s not a vast conspiracy, then what are the odds it overturned the election?

I think we all agree that there is voter fraud, but I think you need fraud that amounts to a swing of 15,000 or so in two states and 20,000 in another. Does that fall within your definition of plausible?

And if it’s not to that level then there are mechanisms for dealing with it, already.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Ok, but if it’s not a vast conspiracy, then what are the odds it overturned the election?

I think we all agree that there is voter fraud, but I think you need fraud that amounts to a swing of 15,000 or so in two states and 20,000 in another. Does that fall within your definition of plausible?

And if it’s not to that level then there are mechanisms for dealing with it, already.
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IDK about odds, I'm just saying it's plausible and shouldn't immediately be dismissed. IDK enough about it to say a few hacktivists couldn't pull this off. Let's see the evidence. If there isn't any, throw it out.
 
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n_huffhines said:
IDK about odds, I'm just saying it's plausible and shouldn't immediately be dismissed. IDK enough about it to say a few hacktivists couldn't pull this off. Let's see the evidence. If there isn't any, throw it out.
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So what are you calling for? Allowing him to file a lawsuit? Some kind of investigation?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Thanks for the background info link.



So he's one of these NeverTrumper/Lincoln Project guys.
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Daaaaaaamn !!!

Got his entire thread premise absolutely DESTROYED in the 2nd post....1st post by anyone besides OP...

* not that it should EVER matter either, but the guy who just completely discredited your subject matter, and thereby the entire thread, is an extremely cool black dude. So the liberals number 1 tactic when they are FOS and get called on it ( "YOU RACIST!!" ) is completely off the table here.

Nice catch Ras...bringing the heat 🔥
 
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lawgator1 said:
You and Trump had no problem with mail in ballots for decades.

Suddenly ....
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I’ve always had a problem with mail in ballots. I’ve already said that if Biden won, so be it. I’m not going to go on a rampage or loot. What I want is in person voting with a photo ID required. The only people that should be able to do absentee are the military and government employees living abroad.
 
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Vol Main said:
I've always offerd photo ID for the poll workers to look up my registration. Seems like a no brainer. But the reality is that registering to vote these days requires confirmation of both citizenship and residence. When I relocated to Tennessee, I presented birth certificate and utility bills in my name to qualify for a star driver license, and I already had a star driver license from another state. The DMV provided a form for information and photo-copies to be transferred to the local Election Commission, for a voter registration. The Commission sent me mail to confirm, and I had to sign another document, so they darn sure had my photo ID on record and double checked my signature. I realize that some people have difficulty providing the necessary documents, but there seems to be too much jawing about this issue on both sides. With or without a photo ID, a person has to confirm his/her signature before receiving a ballot. The numbers for fraudulent voting are very small, way too small to have any impact on elections.
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So you are saying same day registration is not legitimate?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
It occurred on “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in the month of November” as required by law.

Your turn. Name one illegitimate thing about this election.
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Mail in ballots other than properly requested absentee ballots. Your turn.
 
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Trump outperformed 2016. Republicans won most everywhere down ballot. Trump was leading in a landslide nationwide when we went to sleep. Trump won 1/4 of all non-white votes, the most since 1960, everywhere in the country. Liberal cities, small towns, everywhere. Except the few Democrat cities that all stopped counting mysteriously at the same time. Hmm. Then, in EVERY ONE of these suspect cities HUGE drops of mysterious ballots arrive via several out of state vehicles and EVERY SINGLE BALLOT was for Biden with no down ticket votes at all. HMM. In ALL these strategic locations at the same time. Hmm. Observers were strong armed and illegally denied their Constitutional right to observe specifically during the count of these suspect ballot drops. That's a crime. Hmm. Trump gained more votes and percentages of votes in Chicago, New York, San Francisco, and won Beverly Hills, yet ONLY these cities where counting was stopped simultaneously bucked that trend. Oh, you have 90+ % turnout in all those counties in Michigan and Wisconsin while everywhere else does not? HMM Supreme Court Justice Alito wouldn't intervene if there was nothing to it.

Here's an article from 2016 by the BBC that outlines red flags for mass election fraud in third world countries. We're checking a lot of those boxes.
Vote rigging: How to spot the tell-tale signs

Here are some things to consider: Trump claimed Obama used the government to spy on his campaign and transition in 2016 and ALL THE NEWS MEDIA said there was no evidence. Well, turns out it was 100% true. All you people denying this election fraud also said the same thing about the Obama spygate. IT HAPPENED.

Then you people who deny this election fraud told us you were sure Trump "colluded" with the Russians and liked peeing hookers because the TV said so. We lived that media/communist democrat lie for years. Did big tech censor any of that? Nope.

Then you people who deny this election fraud told us President Trump had to be impeached and removed for a phone call that mentioned Biden and his son's criminal bribery. Did big tech censor that? Again, WRONG.

Then you all were ok with the media censoring and blacking out any coverage of Hunter Biden's laptop that proved their family criminal enterprise. Complete with an eye witness. Big tech DID censor that. Wouldn't allow it on anything. As did most of the media on TV.

Forgive me if I don't believe you this time either. Proven Liars. Proven criminals. Proven to do ANYTHING to destroy this President now including stealing and election.

STOP THE STEAL! See you commies in court.
 
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luthervol said:
Who is stopping an investigation?
Biden is the president elect. Investigate all you wish.
But unless an investigation changes something....BIDEN IS PRESIDENT ELECT.
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Untrue. That's a flat lie. Exactly 0 states have certified results. The TV does not decide or pronounce who the president elect will be. Until the results are certified by every state, the college of electors vote, and then the Congress confirms there is NO President elect. Who's stopping the investigation you ask? Oh the commies are trying to stop it believe me. They always do.
 
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davethevol said:
I’ve always had a problem with mail in ballots. I’ve already said that if Biden won, so be it. I’m not going to go on a rampage or loot. What I want is in person voting with a photo ID required. The only people that should be able to do absentee are the military and government employees living abroad.
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Trump voted by mail for quite some time. His hypocrisy on this issue is well known.
 
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Skullbone said:
Trump outperformed 2016. Republicans won most everywhere down ballot. Trump was leading in a landslide nationwide when we went to sleep. Trump won 1/4 of all non-white votes, the most since 1960, everywhere in the country. Liberal cities, small towns, everywhere. Except the few Democrat cities that all stopped counting mysteriously at the same time. Hmm. Then, in EVERY ONE of these suspect cities HUGE drops of mysterious ballots arrive via several out of state vehicles and EVERY SINGLE BALLOT was for Biden with no down ticket votes at all. HMM. In ALL these strategic locations at the same time. Hmm. Observers were strong armed and illegally denied their Constitutional right to observe specifically during the count of these suspect ballot drops. That's a crime. Hmm. Trump gained more votes and percentages of votes in Chicago, New York, San Francisco, and won Beverly Hills, yet ONLY these cities where counting was stopped simultaneously bucked that trend. Oh, you have 90+ % turnout in all those counties in Michigan and Wisconsin while everywhere else does not? HMM Supreme Court Justice Alito wouldn't intervene if there was nothing to it.

Here's an article from 2016 by the BBC that outlines red flags for mass election fraud in third world countries. We're checking a lot of those boxes.
Vote rigging: How to spot the tell-tale signs

Here are some things to consider: Trump claimed Obama used the government to spy on his campaign and transition in 2016 and ALL THE NEWS MEDIA said there was no evidence. Well, turns out it was 100% true. All you people denying this election fraud also said the same thing about the Obama spygate. IT HAPPENED.

Then you people who deny this election fraud told us you were sure Trump "colluded" with the Russians and liked peeing hookers because the TV said so. We lived that media/communist democrat lie for years. Did big tech censor any of that? Nope.

Then you people who deny this election fraud told us President Trump had to be impeached and removed for a phone call that mentioned Biden and his son's criminal bribery. Did big tech censor that? Again, WRONG.

Then you all were ok with the media censoring and blacking out any coverage of Hunter Biden's laptop that proved their family criminal enterprise. Complete with an eye witness. Big tech DID censor that. Wouldn't allow it on anything. As did most of the media on TV.

Forgive me if I don't believe you this time either. Proven Liars. Proven criminals. Proven to do ANYTHING to destroy this President now including stealing and election.

STOP THE STEAL! See you commies in court.
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Anger is eating you up. Accept the result and move on.
 
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Skullbone said:
Untrue. That's a flat lie. Exactly 0 states have certified results. The TV does not decide or pronounce who the president elect will be. Until the results are certified by every state, the college of electors vote, and then the Congress confirms there is NO President elect. Who's stopping the investigation you ask? Oh the commies are trying to stop it believe me. They always do.
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He is president elect. The people have spoken. Trump is the only human ever to lose the popular vote twice. He is being trounced in the popular vote - the biggest loser ever.
 
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