The Presidential Election Was Legitimate. Conspiracies Are Not.

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BigOrangeTrain said:
If it really was then there is nothing to worry about. If there is an investigation then let it play out. And if Biden did legitimately win, then no big deal.
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David French is a known Democrat activist. He tries to guilt trip Christians to support Democrats. It's his job. He suuuuuucks so bad. He's like a state sponsored priest in China. It's got little to do with religion and a lot to do with communism. JMO
 
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luthervol said:
He is president elect. The people have spoken. Trump is the only human ever to lose the popular vote twice. He is being trounced in the popular vote - the biggest loser ever.
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This can’t be said enough.

People acting shocked he lost had a false image in their head that the majority of people in America liked him bc he won the EC in 2016.

But the majority of people do not like him. The signs were there in 2016. You had tons of people saying they voted Trump or didn’t vote bc they didn’t like or didn’t trust Hillary. And he still lost the popular vote.

This is the least surprising outcome of an election ever.
 
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MarcoVol said:
This can’t be said enough.

People acting shocked he lost had a false image in their head that the majority of people in America liked him bc he won the EC in 2016.

But the majority of people do not like him. The signs were there in 2016. You had tons of people saying they voted Trump or didn’t vote bc they didn’t like or didn’t trust Hillary. And he still lost the popular vote.

This is the least surprising outcome of an election ever.
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The popular vote has NEVER determined anything. Thats stupid. Otherwise California and New York would determine elections for the whole nation. We have the Electoral College so small states have a say.
 
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Skullbone said:
There you go again. Lying. Why are you lying?
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He is not only president elect but he is trouncing Trump in electoral votes. It's looking like 306.
Imagine winning both the popular vote and the electoral college vote in landslides.
 
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Skullbone said:
The popular vote has NEVER determined anything. Thats stupid. Otherwise California and New York would determine elections for the whole nation. We have the Electoral College so small states have a say.
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The popular vote determines who the people want.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Mail in ballots other than properly requested absentee ballots. Your turn.
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There’s no proof of “other than properly” anything. State law allowed for some states to send out unsolicited ballots. There was nothing done improperly. Still your turn.
 
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luthervol said:
The popular vote determines who the people want.
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Lying again. It determines what people in two or three communist cities want. It's why we have an electoral college. And delegates. And State Legislatures, And Congress, and if need be, a Supreme Court. A Supreme Court that has already begun to get involved in these irregularities.
 
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Skullbone said:
The popular vote has NEVER determined anything. Thats stupid. Otherwise California and New York would determine elections for the whole nation. We have the Electoral College so small states have a say.
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Ya I wasn’t saying it determined anything in the election except to show that Trump was never THAT popular.

Shouldn’t be surprising he lost.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Vast and secretive conspiracies are nearly impossible to pull off, and I basically immediately dismiss them all. However, there are viable conspiracies, for example, the banking system we have is a result of crony, conspiratorial parties, but they did everything right out in front of us. Still the result of conspiring minds with gigantic consequences we still see today.

With regard to voting, if it's possible for a handful of people to pull off election fraud that swings the election, then that is may be a conspiracy worth exploring. If it's a conspiracy that starts with the DNC or Biden and it's top-down managed, involving hundreds/thousands of people, then I'm out.
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nah, don’t need that many. Only about 10-15 dedicated souls per state team plus a local dem machine that owns the area. Can’t have more than that or you risk a leak. These are outside consultants who work with the machines and do the real dirty work, not joe volunteer or poll worker, who generally are kept ignorant but enthusiastic, supportive but not really understanding why they are being asked to do what they do. The consultants know tho and are well paid for it.
 
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Skullbone said:
Trump outperformed 2016. Republicans won most everywhere down ballot. Trump was leading in a landslide nationwide when we went to sleep. Trump won 1/4 of all non-white votes, the most since 1960, everywhere in the country. Liberal cities, small towns, everywhere. Except the few Democrat cities that all stopped counting mysteriously at the same time. Hmm. Then, in EVERY ONE of these suspect cities HUGE drops of mysterious ballots arrive via several out of state vehicles and EVERY SINGLE BALLOT was for Biden with no down ticket votes at all. HMM. In ALL these strategic locations at the same time. Hmm. Observers were strong armed and illegally denied their Constitutional right to observe specifically during the count of these suspect ballot drops. That's a crime. Hmm. Trump gained more votes and percentages of votes in Chicago, New York, San Francisco, and won Beverly Hills, yet ONLY these cities where counting was stopped simultaneously bucked that trend. Oh, you have 90+ % turnout in all those counties in Michigan and Wisconsin while everywhere else does not? HMM Supreme Court Justice Alito wouldn't intervene if there was nothing to it.

Here's an article from 2016 by the BBC that outlines red flags for mass election fraud in third world countries. We're checking a lot of those boxes.
Vote rigging: How to spot the tell-tale signs

Here are some things to consider: Trump claimed Obama used the government to spy on his campaign and transition in 2016 and ALL THE NEWS MEDIA said there was no evidence. Well, turns out it was 100% true. All you people denying this election fraud also said the same thing about the Obama spygate. IT HAPPENED.

Then you people who deny this election fraud told us you were sure Trump "colluded" with the Russians and liked peeing hookers because the TV said so. We lived that media/communist democrat lie for years. Did big tech censor any of that? Nope.

Then you people who deny this election fraud told us President Trump had to be impeached and removed for a phone call that mentioned Biden and his son's criminal bribery. Did big tech censor that? Again, WRONG.

Then you all were ok with the media censoring and blacking out any coverage of Hunter Biden's laptop that proved their family criminal enterprise. Complete with an eye witness. Big tech DID censor that. Wouldn't allow it on anything. As did most of the media on TV.

Forgive me if I don't believe you this time either. Proven Liars. Proven criminals. Proven to do ANYTHING to destroy this President now including stealing and election.

STOP THE STEAL! See you commies in court.
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Great post bud. You should hang out in the politics forum more. 90% conservatives here or libertarians. 10% Dimwits...

Good job laying out the facts. Dont forget about the softwares used to steal votes also... Dominion is the name of the software loaded on the voting machines in all of those contested states that should be getting recounts...HammerScorecard is the name of the software used that was linked to all the TV networks which they used to take votes from Trumps total and add them to Bidens.

Watch this video below. If you're not interested in all the nuts and bolts, skip to the 34 minute mark and watch them show examples of fraud and explain the different types of electronic fraud.

 
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Vol Main said:
I've always offerd photo ID for the poll workers to look up my registration. Seems like a no brainer. But the reality is that registering to vote these days requires confirmation of both citizenship and residence. When I relocated to Tennessee, I presented birth certificate and utility bills in my name to qualify for a star driver license, and I already had a star driver license from another state. The DMV provided a form for information and photo-copies to be transferred to the local Election Commission, for a voter registration. The Commission sent me mail to confirm, and I had to sign another document, so they darn sure had my photo ID on record and double checked my signature. I realize that some people have difficulty providing the necessary documents, but there seems to be too much jawing about this issue on both sides. With or without a photo ID, a person has to confirm his/her signature before receiving a ballot. The numbers for fraudulent voting are very small, way too small to have any impact on elections.
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Mail in votes are a totally different animal
 
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Skullbone said:
Lying again. It determines what people in two or three communist cities want. It's why we have an electoral college. And delegates. And State Legislatures, And Congress, and if need be, a Supreme Court. A Supreme Court that has already begun to get involved in these irregularities.
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I like this dude. Lol. Has about as much patience for these socialist/commies as I do...none.
 
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Skullbone said:
Lying again. It determines what people in two or three communist cities want. It's why we have an electoral college. And delegates. And State Legislatures, And Congress, and if need be, a Supreme Court. A Supreme Court that has already begun to get involved in these irregularities.
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There are very few counties in the country that the vote is more one-sided than 60/40 or 70/30 in either direction. It’s not cities vs rural, that is just a convenient scapegoating tactic. We live amongst one another. Best get used to it.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Great post bud. You should hang out in the politics forum more. 90% conservatives here or libertarians. 10% Dimwits...

Good job laying out the facts. Dont forget about the softwares used to steal votes also... Dominion is the name of the software loaded on the voting machines in all of those contested states that should be getting recounts...HammerScorecard is the name of the software used that was linked to all the TV networks which they used to take votes from Trumps total and add them to Bidens.

Watch this video below. If you're not interested in all the nuts and bolts, skip to the 34 minute mark and watch them show examples of fraud and explain the different types of electronic fraud.

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hacking the software is not the right way to cheat unless u can be sure to be over the margin for a recount. The physical ballots won’t tally. And getting access is not easy.

Mail in ballots + ballot harvesting =easy and very low risk method to cheat. Hard for GOP to cheat same way even if they wanted to since Rep voters tend to be in low density areas.

If I had a team of 10 and were prepped well ahead, I could easily place 50-100k votes. They are made weeks before election from mailed ballots. Only question is how many to use so not suspicious and check for duplicates against those who already voted..
 
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