The Presidential Election Was Legitimate. Conspiracies Are Not.

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Gandalf said:
nah, don’t need that many. Only about 10-15 dedicated souls per state team plus a local dem machine that owns the area. Can’t have more than that or you risk a leak. These are outside consultants who work with the machines and do the real dirty work, not joe volunteer or poll worker, who generally are kept ignorant but enthusiastic, supportive but not really understanding why they are being asked to do what they do. The consultants know tho and are well paid for it.
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GAVol said:
That’s not right. There have been several lose multiple times.
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Its like talking to freaking kindergarten kids...over and over.

The total popular vote means jack sheit kids. For good reason.

If it weren't for the electoral college, and each state having 2 senators regardless of population...California and NY would make the decisions for EVERYTHING in this country. Every. Damn. Thing...

Have you Libs ever been to either one?

Read about them much?

They are BOTH BANKRUPT... actually, they are FAR beyond bankrupt...they are in huge deficits. Despite having the highest taxes in the country...also, they are both crime ridden, have HUGE homeless populations, insane laws regarding gun ownership, and by far the highest rent and home costs in the US...and people are fleeing both en masse..

Those 2 garbage places with their garbage politics would run everything in this country and it would all be bankrupt financially and morally just like they are...if not for the electoral college and equal senate representation.

Know why? Because liberalism is a disease. It kills its host eventually....every single time. It is a stupid ideology that leads, at least in this country, to widespread socialist policies and a "nanny state" that is simply possible to fund here. The makers aren't producing enough with all of their hard work to support their families PLUS the families of those who are unwilling (mostly) or unable(very small %) to pull their own weight. So inflation, bankruptcy, and eventually.....what we have now. Massive, record setting amounts of Uhaul rentals and both families and businesses relocating in other states to avoid the oppressive taxes (that THEY created) insane inflation and armies of homeless left behind.

Hopefully they leave those liberal views where they came from...instead of voting for the same stupid policies and leaders, thereby ruining their new home states.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
There’s no proof of “other than properly” anything. State law allowed for some states to send out unsolicited ballots. There was nothing done improperly. Still your turn.
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Yet to be determined. That system is improper to begin with period. You know it and I know it. Our entire system is broken.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Mail in votes are a totally different animal
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No, they are not. You have to be a registered voter to receive a mail-in ballot. To be a registered voter, you have to provide proof of citizenship and residence and sign a document for a signature check. They do not just mail thoese things out to everybody in the phone book.
 
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Vol Main said:
No, they are not. You have to be a registered voter to receive a mail-in ballot. To be a registered voter, you have to provide proof of citizenship and residence and sign a document for a signature check. They do not just mail thoese things out to everybody in the phone book.
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You have to have been a registered voter to receive a mail-in ballot in some states. That means (and has been documented) that unless the registration rolls are 100% accurate then people who are no longer eligible to vote receive ballots; or whoever is at that address receives ballots.

That is far different than an absentee system where each person individually requests a ballot and signs for it.

My parents used my address in Alabama and were registered here. If Alabama had sent out ballots then I would have received 3 (1 for me and one for each of them). I could have filled out all three and "signed" for theirs. Since they wouldn't vote here (now live in FL) there's almost no way I get caught for voting 3 times under 3 different "registered" voters in Alabama.
 
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Vol Main said:
No, they are not. You have to be a registered voter to receive a mail-in ballot. To be a registered voter, you have to provide proof of citizenship and residence and sign a document for a signature check. They do not just mail thoese things out to everybody in the phone book.
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Signature check? 🤔😆
How Voting by Mail Could Cost Biden the Election
With millions of people voting by mail for the first time this year, experts expect more errors—and more rejected ballots. In the 2020 primaries, more than 550,000 mail-in and absentee ballots were disqualified, a much higher number than four years ago. The problem is especially severe in some swing states. More than 23,000 mailed ballots were rejected in the presidential primaries in Wisconsin—more than Donald Trump’s margin of victory in that state in 2016. Deep-blue districts have had the same problem: New York City alone threw out more than 84,000 ballots this primary season.
 
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"Lawsuits, schmawsuits. We haven’t seen any evidence yet that there’s anything wrong.” Fox News' politics editor, Chris Stirewalt.
 
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volinbham said:
You have to have been a registered voter to receive a mail-in ballot in some states. That means (and has been documented) that unless the registration rolls are 100% accurate then people who are no longer eligible to vote receive ballots; or whoever is at that address receives ballots.

That is far different than an absentee system where each person individually requests a ballot and signs for it.

My parents used my address in Alabama and were registered here. If Alabama had sent out ballots then I would have received 3 (1 for me and one for each of them). I could have filled out all three and "signed" for theirs. Since they wouldn't vote here (now live in FL) there's almost no way I get caught for voting 3 times under 3 different "registered" voters in Alabama.
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That might be so if your parents neglected to notify their old voting commission of their move or to file a change of address with the USPS. The latter is something nearly everyone does when they move. It is actually a crime now to vote by mail in Tennessee if you are also registered in another state. To vote by mail, I had to sign a statement on the security envelope swearing that I was not registered in another state. I think it said something about a year in jail.
 
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headhunter15 said:
That’s all Hamblen Co. uses and that’s all I’ve ever used to vote. We present out ID and then vote at a designated machine. I bet I reviewed my votes three times before I hit submit on Election Day.
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OK, so you hit submit after you checked it 2 or 3 times. So what does that mean? Your vote can't be changed?
 
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GAVol said:
The popular vote is like the Total Offense stat in a football game. Most of the time it indicates who won, but not all the time.
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And pointless because like football, candidates aren't trying to get the most individual votes. They're trying to get the most electoral votes. I imagine those would be two very different election strategies.
 
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OHvol40 said:
There are very few counties in the country that the vote is more one-sided than 60/40 or 70/30 in either direction. It’s not cities vs rural, that is just a convenient scapegoating tactic. We live amongst one another. Best get used to it.
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We do live together. That's true. The rest is wrong. It's almost exclusively cities vs everywhere else. Ray Charles can see that and Stevie don't have to wonder. It's not that the people are bad it's the mafia party that controls them and their elections. Here's a break down how much it truly is a city vs everyone else situation when it comes to national elections.: First up: 2004 by county.

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Next up 2008 by county

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Next we have 2012

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And then 2016:

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As I said, Ray Charles can see this and Stevie don't have to wonder.
 
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Good grief. If some of you actually believe mail ballots are fine you are factually incorrect. The rules and practices were not the same anywhere and democrats sued for months to eliminate all possible security and validation measures. There's a reason why we traditionally vote in person. There's a reason why France banned mail ballots in 1975 because of rampant mass fraud. There's also a good reason why democrats want more of it with fewer rules and less transparency. And while absentees are much safer than a California or Nevada unsolicited ballot they still remain in a steady second place in the most susceptible to fraud category. If any commies don't believe me, maybe you'd take it from one of your own, Jimmy Carter who said "Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud." They have their ways. It's real and it's happened on a scale never seen before this time. But the truth will come out. Just like the Obama spygate, just like the phony Russian collusion, and just like phony impeachment. All criminal acts by the way. Stay tuned. Stop the steal.
 
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