The Problems with Trans-ideology

[Orangeburst]

Oh for petes sake..now the very definitions of biological male and female are in question as they are subjective to human definition.
Absolutely moronic.

 

[FLVOL_79]

That's not necessarily true. BRUCE Jenner isnt gay..and never has been...this lady presented a male name and presented male. Coupled with the massive mental illness she had..I think in 6 months we will find out she was...

But if Bruce Jenner is accepted as a woman, and he's banging woman, he's now gay. Something tells me he's doing the Texas Stranger® more often than not..

 

[marcusluvsvols]

The shooter wasn’t trans, you’re wrong and doubling down after going off on a stupid ass rant that was wrong as usual. Argue with the police lol

Here you go , let’s see if you take this all back like an adult or just move on to the next wrong as **** angry rant

Lakewood Church shooter was mentally troubled, consistently identified as female, police say

Despite reportedly using multiple aliases, including the male name Jeffrey Escalante, Genesse Ivonne Moreno, a mentally troubled individual who was shot dead by off-duty law enforcement officers ...

www.christianpost.com

Listen Muppet . I have no problem admitting when i am wrong, and always apologize for spreading misinformation when that happens. I simply do not think thats the case here, and i am gonna take a wait and see approach because that police department is a GOVERNMENT entity and thereby unduly influenced by the garbage politics and outright BS of liberal Muppets like you . We will see what the real facts are...eventually. MAYBE. BUT without a doubt we (apparently) have a (at this point) woman masquerading as a MAN named JEFF and thats exactly what the fictional bullsheit term "trans" actually is. A person born as 1 sex pretending to be the other sex. Period .

I personally dont give a damn if she was taking hormones, or had her boobs cut off, or had a girlfriend....or care if whatever other garbage qualifier you would like to come up with was present in this mentally ill, murderous womans life or not. Could not care less. She tried to shoot up a church and got dealt with. Sadly she got a kid and an old man shot in the process and i think the kid may have now died too?

The real elephant in the room here is degenerate liberals like yourself want to draw a BS FICTIONAL distinction between MALE and MAN as well as FEMALE and WOMAN. You degenerates want to try and say " theres a difference between a persons SEX and their GENDER" and you think that garbage argument is gonna convince anyone besides yourselves.

Its not. People who arent degenerates and therefore do not share your delusions nor listen to your lies are NEVER GONNA go along with that BS. Ever. Period. We understand biology. It really is that simple. Wake up.

Your opinion means less than nothing to me regarding this matter because its 100% BS and not only do I KNOW that it is....YOU do TOO. Lmao .

Stop lying to yourself and others. Literally everyone knows this is BS except those who want to rationalize their own mental illness or immorality. What a waste of time. Go argue with someone else.

*edit: as always, CAPS denotes emphasis. Not anger or "yelling". Dont go away mad...just go away.

 

[evillawyer]

But she identifies as black. She feels black. So why don't we agree that she's black? Why does it work for gender but not race?

Still waiting for a coherent explanation of the difference between trans racial and transgender, and why one is real and the other isn't.

 

[evillawyer]

More on this issue:

Hypatia transracialism controversy - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[CobbVol]

Democrat women and unfortunately their daughters as well are getting what they asked for.

 

[Sea Ray]

Democrat women and unfortunately their daughters as well are getting what they asked for.

How 'bout this for liberal spin on the subject? There really are people who think like this...

As I walked away from the bustling stadium, I couldn't help but reflect on the complex issues surrounding gender identity in sports. The debate may continue to rage on, but one thing is clear: Maelle Jacques' historic leap will not be forgotten anytime soon.

In the end, it's not just about who wins or loses; it's about the pursuit of excellence, the courage to defy norms, and the ongoing quest for fairness and inclusivity in the world of sports.

Defying Norms: Maelle Jacques' Historic Leap and the Debate on Fairness in Women's Sports

Maelle Jacques, a biological male, won the girls' high jump at the NHIAA championship, sparking a debate on fairness in women's sports.

bnnbreaking.com

 

[hndog609]

How 'bout this for liberal spin on the subject? There really are people who think like this...

Defying Norms: Maelle Jacques' Historic Leap and the Debate on Fairness in Women's Sports

Maelle Jacques, a biological male, won the girls' high jump at the NHIAA championship, sparking a debate on fairness in women's sports.

bnnbreaking.com

Glad I wasn't drinking when I got to part about "ongoing quest for fairness" or there would have been a huge spit take. These people are pursuing "inclusivity" in direct opposition to the pursuit of "fairness" to actual females.

 

[KptVFL]

Glad I wasn't drinking when I got to part about "ongoing quest for fairness" or there would have been a huge spit take. These people are pursuing "inclusivity" in direct opposition to the pursuit of "fairness" to actual females.

Why are feminists so quiet about this? It's so detrimental to female athletes!

 

[Vol8188]

The most interesting thing about the sports debate is the left will try to lie to you and proclaim trans female (male) athletes have no advantages over female athletes because they’re on estrogen therapy.

Yet the number of examples of trans athletes dominating women’s sports continues to rise.

Edited to removed a story I misremembered. A female did not win a boys state title as I previously thought. A female on test won the girls championship

 

[KptVFL]

I just feel really sorry for the girls that got 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place. Could have been their only chance to ever get on a podium, win silver, or win gold, at a state track meet. They were robbed and there is no other way to look at it logically! 10 inches lower than the gold medal jump in the boys competition?.......... Nothing to see here.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

But she identifies as black. She feels black. So why don't we agree that she's black? Why does it work for gender but not race?

Still waiting for a coherent explanation of the difference between trans racial and transgender, and why one is real and the other isn't.

BARF!!

 

[85SugarVol]

But she identifies as black. She feels black. So why don't we agree that she's black? Why does it work for gender but not race?

Still waiting for a coherent explanation of the difference between trans racial and transgender, and why one is real and the other isn't.

Post her pics lol

 

[marcusluvsvols]

^^^ I figured out she was a woman and put her on ignore within a week of her arrival here in the PF. Only person I have ever put on ignore in probably close to a decade now on VN. It was a great decision from what I can tell....i rarely remember she even exists and dont have to look at her posts. To some posters here theres a negative stigma to ever using the ignore function, but I have no regrets. Yall feel free to ignore me as well if you'd like. I would prefer to not sour anyone elses experience here if my musings bother them honestly.

* just checked my profile been here since 2012. Who knew?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Uhm. Since I apparently need to slow things down for you, that means it isn’t some universal set-in-stone truth; man is whatever we say man is

Yeah, not really.

 

[Vol8188]

Yeah, not really.

Notice he ran away quick after that and didn’t come back

 

[NashVol11]

Notice he ran away quick after that and didn’t come back

I stopped responding because your position was, essentially, "one side believes in 'universal truth,' which is why they say a trans man is not a man, and the other side doesn't believe in universal truth, which is why they say a trans man is a man" and aren't intelligent enough to see any subjectivity or issue or lack of substance in that

 

[Vol8188]

I stopped responding because your position was, essentially, "one side believes in 'universal truth,' which is why they say a trans man is not a man, and the other side doesn't believe in universal truth, which is why they say a trans man is a man" and aren't intelligent enough to see any subjectivity or issue or lack of substance in that

You responded by claiming “man” is merely a word we made up and it can mean whatever we wish. That’s so laughably wrong that it’s hard to believe you’re being serious. There is a universal truth

Sure, society can define words anyway they wish, but that doesn’t change the nature of the thing the word describes. Just like when society defined the earth as a flat orb in the middle of the solar system, that did not make it so.

You can define man in anyway you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that there is a universal truth about men. The language doesn’t change the object the language describes, because there is a universal truth about the nature of that object.

 

[Wireless1]

Democrat women and unfortunately their daughters as well are getting what they asked for.

How ridiculous this is.... I was clearing 5' in the high jump as a 12 YO who was 5' tall...before I hit puberty...well maybe just starting... I don't think there was a girl in my class who could clear 4' despite some being 4" taller than me.
In TN the girls record is 6' the boys 7'2", today in this state there are probably 1000 boys that could clear 6' with 1 day of training.

 

[NashVol11]

I stopped responding because your position was, essentially, "one side believes in 'universal truth,' which is why they say a trans man is not a man, and the other side doesn't believe in universal truth, which is why they say a trans man is a man" and aren't intelligent enough to see any subjectivity or issue or lack of substance in that

You responded by claiming “man” is merely a word we made up and it can mean whatever we wish. That’s so laughably wrong that it’s hard to believe you’re being serious. There is a universal truth

Sure, society can define words anyway they wish, but that doesn’t change the nature of the thing the word describes. Just like when society defined the earth as a flat orb in the middle of the solar system, that did not make it so.

You can define man in anyway you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that there is a universal truth about men. The language doesn’t change the object the language describes, because there is a universal truth about the nature of that object.

Proving my exact point lol, this is nothing more than "cis man IS man and trans man IS NOT man" and throwing in "universal truth" to sound more legitimate to the idiots. Not much different than me saying male mates with female and people who are okay with homosexuality "don't believe in universal truth"

“My side is the universal truth side” is so idiotically tribal lol

 

[whodeycin85]

Proving my exact point lol, this is nothing more than "cis man IS man and trans man IS NOT man" and throwing in "universal truth" to sound more legitimate to the idiots. Not much different than me saying male mates with female and people who are okay with homosexuality "don't believe in universal truth"

“My side is the universal truth side” is so idiotically tribal lol

So is everything a social construct then?

 

[volbound1700]

Proving my exact point lol, this is nothing more than "cis man IS man and trans man IS NOT man" and throwing in "universal truth" to sound more legitimate to the idiots. Not much different than me saying male mates with female and people who are okay with homosexuality "don't believe in universal truth"

“My side is the universal truth side” is so idiotically tribal lol

Yikes... I don't want to get into political debate around this topic but you are definitely in for a rude awakening if you still hold onto this thought when you die and stand before Christ in Judgement.

 

[Vol8188]

Proving my exact point lol, this is nothing more than "cis man IS man and trans man IS NOT man" and throwing in "universal truth" to sound more legitimate to the idiots. Not much different than me saying male mates with female and people who are okay with homosexuality "don't believe in universal truth"

“My side is the universal truth side” is so idiotically tribal lol

Obviously trans men are not men. There’s a universal truth to what a man is that is independent of how you personally or society as a whole chooses to define the term.

You can say that you personally define a man in a manner that includes trans men, and that’s your prerogative. But it doesn’t make it so.

 

[Vol8188]

So is everything a social construct then?

Apparently so. There is no truth. Things are whatever society deems them to be.

 

[hndog609]

Apparently so. There is no truth. Things are whatever society deems them to be.

One doesn't have to go very far with that before the implications become pretty terrifying.