The Problems with Trans-ideology

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NashVol11 said:
It's true. She was born a woman and is a woman now. You seem pretty set on giving her a d*** so I'm not sure this is a good angle for you
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Some comedy is too good to ruin with cheap words like TWSS so I won’t say TWSS, I’ll just let you assume TWSS so you are now free to think TWSS without me saying TWSS.
 
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C-south said:
If it has all the characteristics of a dude along with the lab work to back it up it’s a dude. Your argument is claiming it has a certain genitalia that you have no way of proving. You’re pulling this info from the same place luther pulls numbers…out of your ass.
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No wonder Luther stinks at math!
 
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UTSuave’ said:
@Ulysees E. McGill

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The boxer in question has lived their whole life as a female and is from a country that doesn't allow transition surgery or treatment. Obviously this person is biologically female, but the elephant in the room...just looking at her...is that she's more masculine than the average woman. Trying to look at things objectively instead of just being outraged, there are different conditions one can be born with where all the physical traits reflect only one gender but from a chromosome level there's a little more going on. Do you disallow her to compete in this scenario where she did nothing wrong? As for all the outrage, how many past female Olympians and sports stars would've fallen into the same category? It looks like she was born a female but with a few genetic advantages. I think you'll find people like that all over the medal podiums.
 
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StoVol said:
Not really this person has xy in their 23rd chromosome
They are in the extremely rare category most likely that has xxy
Unfortunate for the person but he/she has a significant biological advantage over an xx woman
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Thanks for sharing. It seems fairest to tell the whole stories. Complex issue.
 
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DD4ME said:
Serious question. Isn't the dude in question also somebody born with female parts? Like I get they have a boost of test, but Isn't this condition dissimilar from people who aren't born with female parts? I am just trying to understand cause this seems wild.
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Yes. Has XY chromosome. Has failed past test for too much testosterone in the body for female competition. Boxing has always been a shady sport. The Olympics hold their test “private”.
 
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Lloyd_Christmas said:
The boxer in question has lived their whole life as a female and is from a country that doesn't allow transition surgery or treatment. Obviously this person is biologically female, but the elephant in the room...just looking at her...is that she's more masculine than the average woman. Trying to look at things objectively instead of just being outraged, there are different conditions one can be born with where all the physical traits reflect only one gender but from a chromosome level there's a little more going on. Do you disallow her to compete in this scenario where she did nothing wrong? As for all the outrage, how many past female Olympians and sports stars would've fallen into the same category? It looks like she was born a female but with a few genetic advantages. I think you'll find people like that all over the medal podiums.
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Lloyd_Christmas said:
The boxer in question has lived their whole life as a female and is from a country that doesn't allow transition surgery or treatment. Obviously this person is biologically female, but the elephant in the room...just looking at her...is that she's more masculine than the average woman. Trying to look at things objectively instead of just being outraged, there are different conditions one can be born with where all the physical traits reflect only one gender but from a chromosome level there's a little more going on. Do you disallow her to compete in this scenario where she did nothing wrong? As for all the outrage, how many past female Olympians and sports stars would've fallen into the same category? It looks like she was born a female but with a few genetic advantages. I think you'll find people like that all over the medal podiums.
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Idk. If you look at the opposite end of the spectrum, do you allow a normal person to compete against people born with physical disadvantages? Johnny Knoxville tried it.
 
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Lloyd_Christmas said:
Is this supposed to be a retort to what I posted? It's a complex issue that's getting dumbed down by stuff like that. If you're looking to take part in an outrage circle, then I can see how those posts would appeal to you.
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No reason to get defensive, just adding more clear, factual information that you can SEE so we can update our programming
 
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LadyVolette said:
‘An old painting’.. wow. If someone was mocking Allah and Muslims. Oh, that’s right they get killed.. Remember Charlie Hebdo? As Christians, we do have the right to be like ‘hey, that’s not cool’ or be offended, or not continue to watch the Olympics if we feel so compelled lol.. We can not like it if we don’t want to like it..sheesh 😂
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The painting would actually be comparable to the cartoons as that is the depiction. This was a skit using the painting as a setting. If the vast majority of outrage comes way after the event due to people talking then it's likely manufactured
 
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Lloyd_Christmas said:
The boxer in question has lived their whole life as a female and is from a country that doesn't allow transition surgery or treatment. Obviously this person is biologically female, but the elephant in the room...just looking at her...is that she's more masculine than the average woman. Trying to look at things objectively instead of just being outraged, there are different conditions one can be born with where all the physical traits reflect only one gender but from a chromosome level there's a little more going on. Do you disallow her to compete in this scenario where she did nothing wrong? As for all the outrage, how many past female Olympians and sports stars would've fallen into the same category? It looks like she was born a female but with a few genetic advantages. I think you'll find people like that all over the medal podiums.
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Would be nice if we could just slap rubber stamps on every situation. I do hope she isnt swinging a summer sausage around boxing women, someone will get hurt.

Olympics needs to do right thing and go a level deeper. Again, hate to say that but its where we are. Im not going to offer a fix bc I dont ****ing care.
 
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utvolpj said:
The painting would actually be comparable to the cartoons as that is the depiction. This was a skit using the painting as a setting. If the vast majority of outrage comes way after the event due to people talking then it's likely manufactured
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My reaction was immediate lol.. but I’m not sure what the timing has to do with it.. it just recently happened 😂
 
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85SugarVol said:
Intersex assigned female at birth with both chromosomes.

They didn’t ask for this. They didn’t one day decide this. They were handed this.

You gonna have them compete in a division by themselves?
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I really do feel sorry for inter-sex athletes and I don't say this to be snide, but perhaps the Special or Parolympics? Chromosomal abnormalities have led countless other athletes there already.
Maybe create a 3rd class in the standards,or compete in the men's division if you have a Y chromosome. Women have always been eligibility to compete in the men's division at the olympics. Historically, the men's division has been an open class and the women's division a protected class.

Unfortunately the Olympics has a long and storied history of cheating. Doubly unfortunately, this includes degenerate men (whom don't qualify for discussion in this thread) cheating by competing in the women's division. In remaining proactive with testing to prevent cheating and keep the women's division protected; you have to draw an emperical line. Social constructs won't cut it.

There's plenty of other tragic examples besides inter-sex, of athletes not getting to compete in the standard olympics. Lose a lower extremity and your prosthetic disqualifies you from the standards because it might give you an unfair advantage.
 
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Elsewhere, boxing and MMA have weight classes.

The Olympics could resolve this without the multi-national, social political overhead.
 
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VAVol85 said:
That’s a bad take. The Last Supper is not just an old painting. It is the basis for the communion ritual that is one of the most sacred rituals in Christiananity.
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It's the most parodied work of art in history, and you didn't get insulted by anybody doing it except the trans people who were re-enacting another famous feast. I mean, look at this sexy, scantily clad Jesus stand-in here. Don't remember anybody complaining ever about this stuff. House is an atheist standimg in for Jesus.

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n_huffhines said:
It's the most parodied work of art in history, and you didn't get insulted by anybody doing it except the trans people who were re-enacting another famous feast. I mean, look at this sexy, scantily clad Jesus stand-in here. Don't remember anybody complaining ever about this stuff. House is an atheist standimg in for Jesus.

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I was more bothered by the guys ball sack hanging out then anything else...
 
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