The Problems with Trans-ideology

[LSU-SIU]

That’s the same thing, just worded irresponsibly. One hundred percent of the “XY” stuff is based on one person saying so one time, without any verification or even confirmation that they tested for that

Its not irresponsible at all, most of life works off of just one person saying something. The verification process could have been used by the two men during appeals I would imagine. The IOC isn't releasing what medical information they have and for good reason for them.

You're trying to make a point but I really don't know what it is. Both of these are pretty easy, meaning they're most likely male.

 

[jp1]

This is what you said:


It doesn't state that. It states that one guy said that, and the IBA notably did not. It's not false information to say that one guy said that, while the IBA notably did not.

Just read post 6639 again, first you responded with a quote that was already included in that post and now rewriting the post I quoted in that post

Again, you would argue with a damn wall. The article quoted the IBA dude.

The IBA says they have 2 independent labs in 2 different countries that verify the results. Again, I can't confirm more than that, but it appears more than 1 guy is saying it if that is the case.

 

[Vol8188]

That’s the same thing, just worded irresponsibly. One hundred percent of the “XY” stuff is based on one person saying so one time, without any verification or even confirmation that they tested for that

Two questions:

1. Other than XY, what else could they have failed based on the rules of that organization? I’m not an expert on that organization, so idk.

2. You don’t actually care if they’re XY, right? You still believe they should compete against women

 

[jp1]

This is what you said:


It doesn't state that. It states that one guy said that, and the IBA notably did not. It's not false information to say that one guy said that, while the IBA notably did not.

Just read post 6639 again, first you responded with a quote that was already included in that post and now rewriting the post I quoted in that post

 

[jp1]

From the IBA.

Statement made by the International Boxing Association regarding Athletes Disqualifications in World Boxing Championships 2023

As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024. We wish to make ...

www.iba.sport

Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors.

The decision made by IBA on 24 March 2023, was subsequently ratified by the IBA Board of Directors on 25 March 2023. The official record of this decision can be accessed on the IBA website here IBA Board of Directors Meeting Minutes.

The disqualification was based on two tests conducted on both athletes as follows:

Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in Istanbul 2022.
Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi 2023.

 

[NashVol11]

From the IBA.

Statement made by the International Boxing Association regarding Athletes Disqualifications in World Boxing Championships 2023

As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024. We wish to make ...

www.iba.sport

Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors.

The decision made by IBA on 24 March 2023, was subsequently ratified by the IBA Board of Directors on 25 March 2023. The official record of this decision can be accessed on the IBA website here IBA Board of Directors Meeting Minutes.

The disqualification was based on two tests conducted on both athletes as follows:

Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in Istanbul 2022.
Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi 2023.

Like I said, doesn’t say what the test was and doesn’t mention chromosomes even one time. This is all based on that one guy

 

[NashVol11]

Again, you would argue with a damn wall. The article quoted the IBA dude.

The IBA says they have 2 independent labs in 2 different countries that verify the results. Again, I can't confirm more than that, but it appears more than 1 guy is saying it if that is the case.

This is bad logic just like “why would the Sporting News say that” is bad logic. Whether or not there are multiple people “verifying the results” still doesn’t confirm that they even tested chromosomes at all, that implication only came from 1 person

 

[Vol8188]

Like I said, doesn’t say what the test was and doesn’t mention chromosomes even one time. This is all based on that one guy

Give us another option. What other test could they have failed

 

[hUTch2002]

I was more bothered by the guys ball sack hanging out then anything else...

Why do you think the House one is supposed to be The Last Supper? I don’t think of that at all.

 

[jp1]

Like I said, doesn’t say what the test was and doesn’t mention chromosomes even one time. This is all based on that one guy

Their rules state XY is the eligibility criteria. What else would the test be? That one guy is the President of the IBA that is backed up by a Board. I included the minutes to the board meeting that it was discussed.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Give us another option. What other test could they have failed

Could have been a testosterone test. Problematic due to many reasons an xx competitor may have elevated testosterone.

 

[NashVol11]

Their rules state XY is the eligibility criteria. What else would the test be? That one guy is the President of the IBA that is backed up by a Board. I included the minutes to the board meeting that it was discussed.

The Board was ratifying the results of the test, they weren’t “backing him up” in saying she was XY and we don’t know what the test was. The Board/labs/whatever have nothing to do with that unless they confirm that they tested her chromosomes and she’s XY, but as of now that is not verified to my knowledge and the entire thing is based on one comment from one person

 

[whodeycin85]

Why do you think the House one is supposed to be The Last Supper? I don’t think of that at all.

It was a rip so..I no longer worry about it. Lol

 

[Vol8188]

Could have been a testosterone test. Problematic due to many reasons an xx competitor may have elevated testosterone.

It directly stated they did not fail a testosterone test

 

[Vol8188]

The Board was ratifying the results of the test, they weren’t “backing him up” in saying she was XY and we don’t know what the test was. The Board/labs/whatever have nothing to do with that unless they confirm that they tested her chromosomes and she’s XY, but as of now that is not verified to my knowledge and the entire thing is based on one comment from one person

Give us another option. What else could they have failed

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Give us another option. What other test could they have failed

The VN approved eye test that's been cited in here multiple times.

 

[jp1]

The Board was ratifying the results of the test, they weren’t “backing him up” in saying she was XY and we don’t know what the test was. The Board/labs/whatever have nothing to do with that unless they confirm that they tested her chromosomes and she’s XY, but as of now that is not verified to my knowledge and the entire thing is based on one comment from one person

They were ratifying the decision to disqualify the 2 boxers based on the failed test.

 

[LSU-SIU]

The Board was ratifying the results of the test, they weren’t “backing him up” in saying she was XY and we don’t know what the test was. The Board/labs/whatever have nothing to do with that unless they confirm that they tested her chromosomes and she’s XY, but as of now that is not verified to my knowledge and the entire thing is based on one comment from one person

A person can be convicted for Murder based on the comment of one person and sentenced to death. What is your point?

A reasonable person could conclude those men are men without a test, the IBA situation only provides additional facts (or disputed facts), and a person at the top of IBA has made the claim.

Most likely both of these boxers are male. The IOC if it wishes could make this simple by just following up what they already know and have records of in the future, or not.

 

[Matt2496]

The only way this nonsense will end is if women collectively refuse to compete against biological males in sporting events.

 

[Vol8188]

The VN approved eye test that's been cited in here multiple times.

I don’t participate in that, but given we’ve had multiple people claim some women have XY chromosomes, I think it’s a wash.

 

[C-south]

 

[theFallGuy]

I was at the Great Wolf Lodge all day today with my daughter on her birthday, checking my phone every time there was down time and I was thoroughly entertained

 

[hUTch2002]

I guess you are right. I have just as much proof that she's not trans as I have that you aren't. Same for Trump and Harris. My gosh what did you just discover!

I knew Trump and Harris were trans lovers. Quick, someone tweet catturd!

 

[volfanhill]

I was at the Great Wolf Lodge all day today with my daughter on her birthday, checking my phone every time there was down time and I was thoroughly entertained

Great Wolf Lodge worth it?

 

[C-south]

They keep saying that this person has identified as female since birth. I find it hard to believe a newborn infant could identify as anything. I can see that if there were certain birth defects that a choice made by others could be made.