The Road To The 2010-11 SEC Title Runs Through Lexington.

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tvolsfan said:
To be fair, they did can the coaches unable to provide the dominance.

But the point was, they want Final Fours. Even if the SEC East isn't just theirs, it's still not how they measure success and they won't aim for it.
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If they don't aim to win the SEC east and SEC championship, they can certainly forget about the Final Four or a national championship.
 
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I would agree that they don't HAVE to do anything for respect;They have it. BUT, if they don't win the east, what's their seed gonna be? ......a lower seed hurts their chances of getting to the FF/Title game. Bottom line- Keep thinking the SEC isn't important and well continue to have more SEC/'AA success. I like their thinkin.
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Couldn't agree more. Saying the SEC championship means nothing is nothing but pure arrogance---one of the many reasons I can't stand Cal. Everyone knows KY wants to make the tournament every year and be a factor for the national championship. However, it all starts by winning your division and conference.
 
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I don't think Cal cares where he's coaching. As long as he is connected with college basketball and gets the fat check. Why should he. He cares about making kids top NBA drafts apparently.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
I would agree that they don't HAVE to do anything for respect;They have it. BUT, if they don't win the east, what's their seed gonna be? ......a lower seed hurts their chances of getting to the FF/Title game. Bottom line- Keep thinking the SEC isn't important and well continue to have more SEC/'AA success. I like their thinkin.
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How much more SEC and NCAA success did Tennessee have this year? Finishing ahead of Tubby and Clyde is a different animal than topping Cal.
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BasketvolsFan said:
If they don't aim to win the SEC east and SEC championship, they can certainly forget about the Final Four or a national championship.
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Yeah, look how failing to win the East in '06 crippled Florida's title hopes.
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"I've always taken the approach that it's about the seed in the NCAA tournament," Calipari said. "If you want me to be honest about how I think and what we're doing to prepare, that's what it is. The SEC tournament is about our seed in the NCAA tournament."
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This is what he actually said. I think he's right...
 
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hatvol96 said:
How much more SEC and NCAA success did Tennessee have this year? Finishing ahead of Tubby and Clyde is a different animal than topping Cal.
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Agreed, doesn't change that ^THAT(my post) is the recent history. Hat, I'm ok with them saying this year was a bust bc they fell short of their goal.(NC). Say that its just a stepping stone and not where their goals end. Don't say it doesn't matter. This isn't ConfUsa. We have a team that won 2 back to backs in his division. And another team that's been to 3 sweet16's since. Its not like he's speaking on Tulsa here.
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That's what I get for thinking. If that is the only quote that has been referenced to mean "he said the SECT doesn't matter", then I retract my statements.
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Orangekush423 said:
Agreed, doesn't change that ^THAT(my post) is the recent history. Hat, I'm ok with them saying this year was a bust bc they fell short of their goal.(NC). Say that its just a stepping stone and not where their goals end. Don't say it doesn't matter. This isn't ConfUsa. We have a team that won 2 back to backs in his division. And another team that's been to 3 sweet16's since. Its not like he's speaking on Tulsa here.
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So what? Cal's been in the league one year. His team dominated, winning the regular season title without any trouble and adding the tournament trophy, too. That sounds pretty much like what happened his last four years in C-USA. He went a combined 4-1 against the programs you referenced. He gives the rest of the SEC no respect because they haven't earned it.
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Orangekush423 said:
That's what I get for thinking. If that is the only quote that has been referenced to mean "he said the SECT doesn't matter", then I retract my statements.
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John Calipari is one win away from clinching a Southeastern Conference championship in his first season at Kentucky -- just what he was brought in to do.

That's why his answer was swift and decisive when Calipari was asked Friday what winning the school's 44th conference title would mean: "Nothing."

The No. 2 Wildcats (27-1, 12-1), college basketball's winningest program, would assure themselves of at least a share of the championship by beating Tennessee on Saturday. They would get the championship outright if Vanderbilt also loses at Arkansas.

"I've always taken the approach that it's about the seed in the NCAA tournament," Calipari said. "If you want me to be honest about how I think and what we're doing to prepare, that's what it is. The SEC tournament is about our seed in the NCAA tournament."
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I think the writer meant the regular season championship but Cal was talking about the conference tournament...that's just how I see it though
 
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VKAman said:
I think the writer meant the regular season championship but Cal was talking about the conference tournament...that's just how I see it though
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I Think this is a point that is being lost in translation in this thread. It has zilch to do with the regular season SEC title.

Its the SEC tourney title that is being referenced, from what I understand. I know thats why I"m talking about when I made my posts.
 
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I get the point, and I understand that their goals don't stop in Nville(wherever its held). But, isn't there a better way to describe it without intentionally taking a shot @ HIS conference. Afterall, come seeding time, you want your conf to appear as strong as possible, no?
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Or he could go join a real BB conference and quit making a career out of sweeping through reg seasons. For someone who measures success (now or then) on NTitles, he has apparently failed. I say hell never win a NC.
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If he couldn't win a national title with Memphis when they had Kansas beat and couldn't win with NBA talent last year, I don't know what it would take for him to win a national championship.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, look how failing to win the East in '06 crippled Florida's title hopes.
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There are always exceptions to every thing. How many times has a team won the national championship, but failed to win their own conference? With the expanded tournament, it does happen. However, winning your conference does have impact on your seeding and enhance your chances in the tournament.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
Or he could go join a real BB conference and quit making a career out of sweeping through reg seasons.
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That's what all the SEC sheep kept saying while he was at Memphis. They kept begging for Cal to come to the SEC so "a real league" could show him what it's all about. Looks like people should have been careful for what they wished for. It took him all of one year to put UK right back on top.
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hatvol96 said:
That's what all the SEC sheep kept saying while he was at Memphis. They kept begging for Cal to come to the SEC so "a real league" could show him what it's all about. Looks like people should have been careful for what they wished for. It took him all of one year to put UK right back on top.
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Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct. I was one who clearly thought he would not dominate the SEC as he did at Memphis. Obviously, I stand corrected.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That's what all the SEC sheep kept saying while he was at Memphis. They kept begging for Cal to come to the SEC so "a real league" could show him what it's all about. Looks like people should have been careful for what they wished for. It took him all of one year to put UK right back on top.
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Would you know how to handle yourself if TN were to become dominant. Ill bet no.
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Serious question for Hat.

What do you think of Cal's on the court coaching abilities? It has been my opinion for some time that Cal is at best a mediocre coach on the bench but his abilities as a recruiter make up for his shortcomings on the bench. We can debate the reasons he's a great recruiter in circles and get nowhere so I'd rather just leave that aspect out of it. Am I off base IYO?
 
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What does that say ab our coach then hat? The fact that the almighty one has his program "back on top" and we beat them and had equal 'AA success after the trouble we had to fill a roster out this year?
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hatvol96 said:
That's what all the SEC sheep kept saying while he was at Memphis. They kept begging for Cal to come to the SEC so "a real league" could show him what it's all about. Looks like people should have been careful for what they wished for. It took him all of one year to put UK right back on top.
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And in the same way the CUSA isn't SEC, the SEC isn't the BEast or the ACC.(I wasn't on here for MemphisCal)
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Orangekush423 said:
What does that say ab our coach then hat? The fact that the almighty one has his program "back on top" and we beat them and had equal 'AA success after the trouble we had to fill a roster out this year?
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We beat them once and they beat the Hell out of us twice. The Cats will take that deal every year. I'm also pretty sure UK would have loved to have seen Michigan State in their regional final instead of who they drew.

It also says that five years into his tenure Bruce Pearl still hasn't brought in much, if any, elite talent.
 
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