The Roger Stone Trial

[USAFgolferVol]

That would be true if you didn’t see every leading Liberal do the exact things I mentioned. They say it themselves

Who do you recognize as "leading Liberals"? The ones running for President? Your posts suggest that it is more the norm for most liberals and that's simply not the case

 

[BowlBrother85]

Which dem candidate states:
-They are against gun control
-they are against abortions as birth control
-they are for the rule of law and support police/ICE enforcing the laws
-they are for cutting taxes or at the very least not raising them

Obama said three of these things while president. He was in favor of gun control.... wow. But also realize that you said much more than this in your previous post. You said that liberals hate the police and encourage deviant behavior. Dumb.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Obama said three of these things while president. He was in favor of gun control.... wow. But also realize that you said much more than this in your previous post. You said that liberals hate the police and encourage deviant behavior. Dumb.

They routinely state anti police rhetoric and want police not to enforce laws from drug dealing to warrants to immigration laws. To deny this is simply having your head in the sand

 

[Weezer]

My patriotism was questioned because I don't support Trump

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say something along the lines of service doesn't make one a patriot? And before you get upset, this has nothing to do with Trump. I don't care whether you support him or not. This is about your own words, and understanding your argument. Plenty of people on this board who have served, but not all share your political opinions, so I'm not sure why you seem to put more emphasis on your service compared to their service.

 

[luthervol]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say something along the lines of service doesn't make one a patriot? And before you get upset, this has nothing to do with Trump. I don't care whether you support him or not. This is about your own words, and understanding your argument. Plenty of people on this board who have served, but not all share your political opinions, so I'm not sure why you seem to put more emphasis on your service compared to their service.

Many on this board think service = patriotism.
Many of those same people think anti-Trumpism = lack of patriotism (hating America)
USAF is showing the flaw in those two beliefs.

 

[Weezer]

Nope; and all you are doing now is proving my point.
Ignore the inconvenient truths, it's a necessary trait for anyone wishing to support Trump.

So your "facts" are correct, and Hog's "facts" are wrong? Haven't looked it up myself, but seems like someone is being selective with truth, and given your track record, well, it doesn't look good for you.

You have a history of ignoring inconvenient truths, luther. All the times you've screeched "wolf", how could you expect anyone to believe you? Your obvious political bias and your often inane arguments do not help your case.

 

[luthervol]

So your "facts" are correct, and Hog's "facts" are wrong? Haven't looked it up myself, but seems like someone is being selective with truth, and given your track record, well, it doesn't look good for you.

You have a history of ignoring inconvenient truths, luther. All the times you've screeched "wolf", how could you expect anyone to believe you? Your obvious political bias and your often inane arguments do not help your case.

Hogg's facts did not apply to what was stated in the article.
He used those unrelated facts to try to claim the article was not factual.

 

[Weezer]

Many on this board think service = patriotism.
Many of those same people think anti-Trumpism = lack of patriotism (hating America)
USAF is showing the flaw in those two beliefs.

There's nothing wrong with disliking Trump, but when you allow the hate to drive you over the edge, and in this case I mean you specifically, you lose all credibility simply because you jump outside the bounds of reason. If there's a line, you go about 100 miles past it, into the land of make believe.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say something along the lines of service doesn't make one a patriot? And before you get upset, this has nothing to do with Trump. I don't care whether you support him or not. This is about your own words, and understanding your argument. Plenty of people on this board who have served, but not all share your political opinions, so I'm not sure why you seem to put more emphasis on your service compared to their service.

I did say that and I stick to it. Maybe it's the fact that I spent a career in the military is the reason I feel as I do. I don't care for our current Congress make-up from either side of the aisle. In fact I dislike more than like; however, my disdain for our President is unwavering

 

[Girth Brooks]

Many on this board think service = patriotism.
Many of those same people think anti-Trumpism = lack of patriotism (hating America)
USAF is showing the flaw in those two beliefs.

You wouldn’t know despotism if it placed you at the end of its gun and took away the firearms you didn’t have.

Your inability to possess situational awareness only flies your flag of hypocrisy higher.

Here’s a few that you and your cadre of loony tunes have used:

—anti-Obama = racist
—anti-infringement on rights = murderous nut bag
—magnifying individual liberty = oppression of minorities (re: racist, again)
—sovereignty = xenophobic
—pro-life = misogynist

 

[AirVol]

Many on this board think service = patriotism.
Many of those same people think anti-Trumpism = lack of patriotism (hating America)
USAF is showing the flaw in those two beliefs.

Some military people are worthless. I’ve known a lot of them.

 

[luthervol]

There's nothing wrong with disliking Trump, but when you allow the hate to drive you over the edge, and in this case I mean you specifically, you lose all credibility simply because you jump outside the bounds of reason. If there's a line, you go about 100 miles past it, into the land of make believe.

I understand why you choose to believe as you do.
You wish to normalize Trump.
Trump is abnormal and should never be normalized.
That is where we will continue to disagree.

 

[luthervol]

You wouldn’t know despotism if it placed you at the end of its gun and took away the firearms you didn’t have.

Your inability to possess situational awareness only flies your flag of hypocrisy higher.

Here’s a few that you and your cadre of loony tunes have used:

—anti-Obama = racist
—anti-infringement on rights = murderous nut bag
—magnifying individual liberty = oppression of minorities (re: racist, again)
—sovereignty = xenophobic
—pro-life = misogynist

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Are you saying those things are more true, less true, or equally true to anti-Trumpism = unpatriotic (hate of America)?

 

[C-south]

Who do you recognize as "leading Liberals"? The ones running for President? Your posts suggest that it is more the norm for most liberals and that's simply not the case

So you’re not voting for the commie, commie?

 

[37L1]

I did say that and I stick to it. Maybe it's the fact that I spent a career in the military is the reason I feel as I do. I don't care for our current Congress make-up from either side of the aisle. In fact I dislike more than like; however, my disdain for our President is unwavering

What the hell, I'm going to ask because I'm curious.

What is it about your career in the military that you think makes you feel as you do?

 

[USAFgolferVol]

What the hell, I'm going to ask because I'm curious.

What is it about your career in the military that you think makes you feel as you do?

Did you bother to read the post I was responding to? Damn! If you can't follow the context, maybe you should put me on ignore

 

[Weezer]

I did say that and I stick to it. Maybe it's the fact that I spent a career in the military is the reason I feel as I do. I don't care for our current Congress make-up from either side of the aisle. In fact I dislike more than like; however, my disdain for our President is unwavering

I guess my point is you have no idea what type of military service anyone else on the board has, so maybe give the same benefit of the doubt you're requesting. I think it's idiotic to judge anyone's patriotism on whether they like the current President. Plenty of people disliked Obama. Plenty of people dislike Trump. Political differences don't make one more or less patriotic, but then again, neither does military service. I highly respect the service of those that have or do serve, but just because one hasn't served, that doesn't make them any less a patriot.

 

[Weezer]

I understand why you choose to believe as you do.
You wish to normalize Trump.
Trump is abnormal and should never be normalized.
That is where we will continue to disagree.

Luther, I can no more normalize Trump as I could normalize you. You are extremely abnormal.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

I guess my point is you have no idea what type of military service anyone else on the board has, so maybe give the same benefit of the doubt you're requesting. I think it's idiotic to judge anyone's patriotism on whether they like the current President. Plenty of people disliked Obama. Plenty of people dislike Trump. Political differences don't make one more or less patriotic, but then again, neither does military service. I highly respect the service of those that have or do serve, but just because one hasn't served, that doesn't make them any less a patriot.

Haven't said that in any post nor do I believe supporting Trump lessens patriotism. There are those that support Trump that believe those that don't aren't patriotic or far left radicals. Plenty of posts like that in this forum

 

[Weezer]

Haven't said that in any post nor do I believe supporting Trump lessens patriotism. There are those that support Trump that believe those that don't aren't patriotic or far left radicals. Plenty of posts like that in this forum

Which is why I said as much in my post. Most people just want what they see as best. Too bad collectively, we rarely agree on what's best. That's why we need more compromise between the parties and less partisan bickering.

 

[luthervol]

Luther, I can no more normalize Trump as I could normalize you. You are extremely abnormal.

Very true.
Yet you continue in your attempts to normalize Trump.
If you are now admitting that he is extremely abnormal, I'll take that.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Haven't said that in any post nor do I believe supporting Trump lessens patriotism. There are those that support Trump that believe those that don't aren't patriotic or far left radicals. Plenty of posts like that in this forum

I for one don’t believe everyone who dislikes or disagrees with Trump are all far left radicals. All far left radicals are such because of their illogical emotional beliefs and reactions which are quite obvious IMO

 

[Weezer]

Very true.
Yet you continue in your attempts to normalize Trump.
If you are now admitting that he is extremely abnormal, I'll take that.

He's a pompous ass hat. I've said that before. Are pompous ass hats abnormal, because there seems to be plenty of them? Hell, I've even said he shouldn't have been elected, but we ended up with two people who shouldn't have been elected as the candidates. That led to him being elected, which means learning to live with it, which you cannot seem to do. If Hillary had won, you'd have expected the right to live with it. But she didn't. Both parties could have found better choices. Both parties failed. Yet you keep trying to one-side the blame, which is ridiculous.

 

[luthervol]

He's a pompous ass hat. I've said that before. Are pompous ass hats abnormal, because there seems to be plenty of them? Hell, I've even said he shouldn't have been elected, but we ended up with two people who shouldn't have been elected as the candidates. That led to him being elected, which means learning to live with it, which you cannot seem to do. If Hillary had won, you'd have expected the right to live with it. But she didn't. Both parties could have found better choices. Both parties failed. Yet you keep trying to one-side the blame, which is ridiculous.

That's because one side is far more to blame for Trump than the other. The left will take the responsibility/blame for who we nominate and elect; the right can take responsibility/blame for who they nominate/elect. I'm willing to take full responsibility/credit/blame for Obama or Clinton or Carter. I never once in my life tried to "blame" the other side for giving me what I wanted. It's insane, and quite telling.

 

[vols40]

A guy and his dog, who didn't feel intimidated, who didn't want Stone prosecuted because it was "Roger just being Roger."

"A guy and his dog" are racist